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Other Chris: Cats cannot be deterred.

Danielle: If they want to do something, they're going to do it.

Travis: Yup.

Travis: They can be annoyed but not deterred.

Other Chris: That's how cats work.

Chris: Yeah.

Travis: I laugh though, cause like probably 25 minutes ago, Danielle was like am I on this one today?

Danielle: I was like, no, I'm busy.

Danielle: I thought I was going to have the whole hour and a half year upstairs to decorate.

Travis: Hello and welcome back to Rtfb.

Travis: This is Travis and today Chris, other Chris, Danielle and I are watching the sun set on our Dracula season.

Travis: Or would that be watching the sun rise on it?

Travis: Listen, I ran out of vampire puns a long time ago and so I'm just flying blind now.

Travis: Flying blind like a bat.

Travis: Full recovery.

Travis: Anyway, we're talking about 1992s, Bram Stoker's Dracula, the movie today.

Travis: So give that a watch if you haven't yet.

Travis: And once you're ready, let's get back to my conversation with the Chris's and Danielle already in progress.

Travis: In 4 hours.

Danielle: You don't get to go to movies?

Chris: No, stuff usually happens and no one can go or I don't have any money.

Danielle: Don't you like to go by yourself?

Danielle: I do.

Chris: I do. But I got used to going with people and they have a movie pass thing down here and they've had it as a gift for them for last holidays.

Chris: So it could be super cheap to go because they usually have points to get a free ticket.

Chris: So their tickets are always free and they can usually get me in on one.

Chris: We're probably going to have to try to see Black Panther, but it's hard since Matt is our valuable third and he usually has to work on the weekends because that is prime time for chili's.

Danielle: Oh yeah, chili's.

Chris: He only gets one weekend off a month that's on the weekend.

Chris: And he just had all that for his honeymoon and marriage and stuff last weekend.

Travis: How did the wedding go?

Chris: It was great.

Chris: The weather was nice last weekend.

Travis: Good.

Chris: So it was really nice at this place.

Chris: It's about 30 minutes from us but we're just out in the country.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: And since we're in the foothills, I honestly forget how close to mountains and ravines and stuff that we are.

Chris: Yeah, because they're not super tall.

Chris: But where this place is called Friends Farm and the people who own it as a couple, they just built it, they bought it and turned into wedding venue.

Chris: So they've got these little gullies and stuff with a little creek that runs through it and some beautiful trees.

Chris: So the trees that still had foliage had really beautiful like vibrant yellow and red leaves.

Chris: And they have this outdoor they have this little gazebo connected to the bigger one.

Chris: That's where the wedding occurs.

Chris: And they have guests out on the little gravel path like this little gravel area, which can be a hangout area too.

Chris: They have wonderful light strung across and all this stuff.

Travis: That sounds cool.

Chris: It's really like in nature, but also covered in case it rained.

Travis: Right.

Chris: So that's where that was.

Chris: They had the ceremony and then you had the reception.

Chris: The bigger structure they built.

Chris: That was really nice.

Chris: Bathrooms galore.

Chris: So that's my main problem.

Chris: Do I have to hike somewhere for the bathroom or not?

Chris: No, perfect kitchen is they bring the food out and keep there.

Chris: It's really nice.

Chris: There's a little dance floor in the middle.

Chris: They set the tables in the outer part of this big structure.

Chris: It kind of reminds me of like a wallless barn.

Chris: I think that's like the aesthetic they're going for.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: So you put the tables in the outer wrong.

Chris: And there's like a little intersection, too, where that's where they set up the food to get and that's the dance floor, too.

Chris: So I'm like that's really nice kind of division of space so that people can sit and be feel okay.

Chris: Or get on the dance floor and feel like they're not going to bump into the tables.

Travis: Right.

Chris: It was really nice.

Chris: I got really p***** off because people started leaving early.

Travis: Like what?

Chris: Like our family, my dad and my stepmom and Ben, the other brother, and my niece Murdian came because her daughter, my great niece, was the flower girl.

Chris: They all left at 730.

Danielle: Why?

Danielle: What did they have to do?

Chris: Because Luna, who was three and a half, was tired and wanted to go home.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: And that was the excuse they used.

Chris: I'm like, really?

Chris: Like, you came here, you sat through the thing, you ate dinner, and then you're leaving.

Travis: No, no, I kid a couple.

Travis: Let's power through.

Chris: That's my thing.

Chris: Or just set her up on top of one of these non used tables and she can take a nap.

Travis: Right?

Danielle: Right.

Chris: Like, she was just on the floor demanding my dad dance with her and now she wants to go home.

Chris: So no, they all left.

Chris: Half the family left.

Chris: And then all these other people started trickling out.

Chris: Like, I got really upset, like visibly angry.

Chris: I was angry at things.

Chris: I'm like, I don't want to do s***.

Chris: I don't want to help out right now because I'm really mad at this.

Chris: Their weddings.

Chris: We're scheduled to be there until 915, which we were like the core group of us.

Chris: But no, no, I'm like it says 915.

Chris: You f****** keep your a** here and you enjoy the music until nine f****** 15, and then you can leave.

Chris: Because we had an official send off plan for them, and they had these really cool popper streamers, right?

Chris: We're all supposed to hold and shoot over them to make, like a cool streamer tunnel.

Travis: Right?

Chris: They were like, going up the stairs.

Chris: That didn't happen.

Chris: They f****** left.

Travis: That's what I was going to say.

Travis: This is not like a usual party, like, where people just, okay, whenever we'll go to bed now.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: No, I'm like, this is like a wedding.

Travis: People have to leave, dismiss them.

Other Chris: When I was a kid, if I told somebody I was tired at a wedding, they'd be like, well, f*** you.

Chris: Yeah, that's kind of my thing.

Chris: Like, okay, kid, we'll go lay down somewhere and we'll find you when it's over.

Danielle: Yeah.

Other Chris: Hang out in the coat check, right?

Chris: Something like that.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: You don't do it on the whim of the three and a half year old.

Travis: Yeah.

Danielle: That person doesn't make the decisions.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Like, I could see Meridian being tired.

Chris: She had to drive in that day from Tennessee.

Chris: She couldn't come the day before with my dad and my step mom and Luna because they had a place.

Chris: Like they had a hotel.

Chris: I'm like, what the f***?

Chris: You guys don't need to drive anywhere.

Chris: Like, f****** stakes on IP.

Chris: My stepmom Donna was pretty sloshed.

Chris: She had a lot of wine drink at all.

Chris: I don't care.

Chris: Like to drink it all, have a good time.

Travis: Did you have a supply of Cheer wine?

Chris: No, we didn't.

Travis: That's a problem.

Travis: We stayed forever for Cheer wine, tea.

Chris: And lemonade and something else for non drinkers.

Chris: And then just like a bunch of beer and wine and stuff.

Chris: People wanted some refreshments, started leaving.

Chris: And then I went to the bathroom at like, 830 and at 10:00 when you're done.

Chris: No, and I came out, or maybe it was like eight.

Chris: And I came out and one of the groomsmen and his girlfriend who was a bridesmaid, had left.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: I'm like, what the f***, dude?

Chris: Kind of needed to he partied yeah.

Travis: Again, just get drunk, throw up, deal.

Chris: With, like, can you take my suit rental back tomorrow?

Chris: I'm like, all right.

Chris: But he left and I had all his s*** in my trunk in my car.

Travis: You just got yourself a new suit?

Chris: No, I had to go to his house the next day and collect it.

Chris: I mean, he only lives like 15 minutes from here too.

Chris: Or 10 minutes a wedding, folks.

Chris: It's not supposed to be over at 830.

Travis: No.

Chris: Like, come on.

Chris: Yeah, they had a good time, though.

Chris: They're like, well, it worked out okay because Matt and Britney snuck off after a little bit when other people dance them to go in the other area and have, like, somebody played a song for them and had a nice little dancing stuff with themselves and she'll enjoy the atmosphere.

Chris: But I was, like, super p***** off.

Chris: I'm like, because you are going to f****** do this when I get married, aren't you?

Chris: Brittany's?

Chris: Like, no, for your wedding.

Chris: If you demand it like I do, the rule will be no one can leave you'll.

Chris: Lock the doors.

Chris: It's fine.

Chris: If you want to sit down and chill for like an hour at your.

Other Chris: Table, shame the fire exit, have some.

Chris: More food, but you're not leaving until the scheduled leave time.

Chris: What you're saying is 15 was very reasonable.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: You got some Penchup wedding parties to do, but luckily you've got an opportunity coming up.

Chris: Right.

Travis: You can vent all your frustrations on Megan's wedding.

Chris: Yeah, knock me in a corner, let me take a nap, but I won't leave.

Travis: You're going to f****** drink and party.

Other Chris: I feel like people are actually going to do that there might be able.

Chris: To with the time change.

Chris: I won't fully adjust to that hour shift.

Chris: So it'll be like 11:00.

Chris: So being tired, that would be okay.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Sorry about I'm not driving you home because I know you'll be upset.

Travis: I'm going to make you stay longer than you want, right?

Travis: Yeah, right.

Chris: Because I will regret it later that I left early from Megan's wedding.

Travis: That's right.

Travis: Can't do it otherwise.

Chris: It was nice.

Chris: It worked out well.

Chris: Oh, my God.

Chris: Oh, my God.

Travis: No.

Chris: We had a big fiasco with Matte suit.

Chris: So apparently Men's Warehouse sucks now for sure.

Danielle: They kind of always have not been that great.

Chris: The clothes I've gotten from them are fine.

Chris: And when I've rented them before, like, for your wedding and other s*** and a couple others, like, I didn't have any problems.

Danielle: Dan did.

Danielle: His jacket didn't fit.

Travis: That's true.

Travis: But Dan's, like, not an exemplar of it.

Danielle: Well, that's true, but you also have.

Chris: To get there in time to get it adjusted right.

Chris: But we did our order two months ahead of time, beginning September.

Chris: We went in, matt and I got our measurements.

Chris: We got all everything set up for the whole party, sent out their info.

Chris: They finally got their s*** done.

Chris: And I got a notice the week before the wedding that my suit was in.

Chris: So did everybody else.

Chris: Some people pick them up, some didn't pick them up right away.

Chris: Matt never got his notice.

Chris: Oh, the groom the most important person.

Chris: And we started calling them, like, that Monday of the week they're getting married.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Like, hey, where's the suit?

Chris: Everybody else has got notifications that they got there, that they're ready.

Travis: Right?

Chris: Every time we call, we don't have you.

Chris: And it would turn out like every time we have to get to the manager and the manager like, no search with the phone number, not with the name, things like that.

Chris: Oh, we'd find you.

Chris: We don't have any of your measurements.

Chris: No, you do.

Chris: I was like, I could verify.

Chris: I was there the day we did them.

Chris: I know they took them and they had them try on pieces to make sure it should fit like that.

Chris: And yeah, we never got that email saying stuff.

Chris: Oh, no, they got it, I think on Sunday we went in.

Chris: We kept bothering them.

Chris: And like Thursday I even rushed home from school, so I was like, okay, if it's in, we got just enough time to go get it.

Chris: Get back here, get people go downtown for your kind of bachelor party because we had to post on that because someone who was in it we were going to have earlier had Covet that weekend, things like that.

Chris: So it wasn't there.

Chris: They didn't have it.

Chris: They assured him were like, dudes, the agreement says you have to have it here by today.

Chris: Yeah, give me a pickup like Thursday before my wedding.

Chris: He's like, I'm getting married on Saturday.

Chris: Like, what the f***?

Travis: Right?

Chris: They're like, okay, we promise the Taylor will be there tomorrow.

Chris: So if you need any adjustments, like it will be there in the morning.

Chris: We should call you.

Chris: Contact us by ten after ten.

Chris: If we didn't get to you, it'll be here.

Chris: All right.

Chris: So he gets that call that Friday morning after we had an okay bachelor party experience.

Chris: We're going to have a party later, like a real one.

Chris: That's how it went.

Chris: It was okay, what we wanted, but it was okay.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: So we get there and one of these manager ladies is like, yeah, I got here this morning to find out all this.

Chris: Basically what happened is the warehouse, they lost your ship.

Travis: Oh, man.

Chris: We had to order it again and overnight it from the warehouse this morning.

Chris: Like he didn't give us anything off for losing his order and almost not having the groom be because we're going to cancel our s*** and our money back.

Chris: And there's this place near our house that we drive by sometimes, depends direction we're going in called Men's Fashion with a z.

Chris: Some dudes like business, like little business.

Chris: And he has an ad on the side of building, like the $150 suit or something.

Chris: That's a whole suit and a shirt and tie and shoes.

Chris: We're just going to do that nice.

Chris: Instead, which is probably not the best suit, but it would have worked.

Chris: In the meantime, I would have gone.

Other Chris: To one of those places in the mall, like one of the dead malls.

Other Chris: What's the name of the place near here anyway?

Travis: The Mills.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: The mills.

Other Chris: If you go to the Mills, right.

Chris: They'Re turning into something else.

Travis: They turn into empty space.

Other Chris: Yeah, mostly.

Chris: No, they're going to actually redevelop it and turn it into something else.

Travis: They just haven't done it yet.

Travis: Okay.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: No, they're never going to save your Hazelwood that died.

Chris: There's like ten years.

Other Chris: There's nothing else out there.

Other Chris: And no one ever has a reason to go there.

Other Chris: So there's no reason for it to exist.

Chris: Which makes me sad because I used to go there all the time for a few years.

Travis: Yeah, they had a really nice theater when it first opened.

Travis: They did.

Chris: And they had a lot of good restaurants around there.

Chris: And the Blues used to practice there.

Chris: And there was a lot of reasons to go there's.

Travis: A store just for flags.

Chris: And I had to walk also so far to get anywhere good.

Travis: I could buy any flag you wanted.

Travis: Yes.

Travis: I have it.

Travis: Not anymore.

Other Chris: Like I said, nobody lives there, so nobody's going there.

Travis: Right.

Chris: And it was not easy to get to, to be fair.

Chris: Very specific exits that you could not get to from certain directions.

Chris: But it was still interesting for a couple of years.

Travis: Nope.

Travis: No.

Other Chris: Anyway, not true.

Other Chris: One of the stores in there after it died was, like, this men's fashion place, but they sold, like, just straight up pimp clothes.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: So you could go there and get, like, a purple suit and a hat with a feather in it.

Other Chris: You could go there and get, like, snake skin.

Other Chris: S***.

Chris: I think we have one of those in our mall.

Other Chris: It was awesome.

Other Chris: And I hope that that store is still there as, like, one of the only stores in that mall.

Chris: The last sold out.

Other Chris: Yeah, it's great.

Travis: That and an Ante Ann's pretzels that.

Other Chris: All of them support a pretzel.

Chris: I know.

Other Chris: It couldn't support a Johnny Rockets.

Travis: Yeah, I was just saying.

Chris: Johnny Rockets.

Chris: Close.

Chris: That was the hint.

Chris: Because I got the weird steak place that was right by it.

Chris: Okay, but when the Johnny Rockets sold it, I'm like, oh, this place is good.

Travis: What kind of a margin do you have on a soft pretzel anyway?

Danielle: Like, so much for someone that used to work there.

Danielle: I think they said it was like 300% markup.

Travis: I believe it.

Chris: I did like when it was vibrant, though.

Chris: I used to go with Susie because we lived kind of up near there and they had a really cool little book fair that would come in every now and then.

Chris: I really enjoyed.

Chris: Got some neat little volumes there.

Chris: Goes to the past.

Chris: Now, remember books?

Travis: I do.

Chris: I happen to own a bunch.

Other Chris: Wait a minute.

Travis: Wait a second.

Travis: We talk about books sometimes.

Travis: Yeah, books.

Other Chris: Books, yeah.

Travis: Actually talk about movies instead of books because we read a book already.

Chris: We read that it inspired many movies.

Travis: Many.

Travis: So many.

Travis: And then some.

Travis: Yes.

Chris: Too many.

Travis: Hey, Danielle.

Travis: You're here.

Danielle: I'm here.

Travis: We have a question for you.

Travis: Why are vampires so awesome?

Danielle: Because they are so old, so they have to be.

Danielle: They've learned.

Danielle: They've learned how to be awesome.

Travis: I mean, why are people so attracted to vampires and stuff?

Danielle: I don't know.

Danielle: They're weird.

Danielle: I don't even s*** about vampires.

Travis: Okay, wait.

Travis: Hold on.

Travis: Time out.

Travis: Whoa.

Travis: Timeout wait.

Travis: Didn't you delay going to the hospital when you were in labor to watch The Vampire Diary?

Danielle: Yeah, that show was interesting.

Danielle: But I've always said when it's very irresponsible for anyone to be interested in dating vampire, go for the normal blond hair, blue eyes, human, then you probably won't murder you in your sleep.

Travis: Not necessarily.

Chris: They love you.

Chris: They won't murder you in your sleep.

Danielle: They can't help it.

Chris: They can't help me.

Chris: That in chose.

Travis: They've got to.

Chris: Yeah, they will eventually.

Chris: Want to turn you, though.

Travis: So you're not one of these ones who's like, man, he's so sexy and stuff.

Danielle: No.

Danielle: Well, he would be super cold, too.

Danielle: Like, I'm not interested in that.

Danielle: I'm already cold.

Danielle: I need something warm.

Chris: That is a very valid point.

Danielle: I don't want something cold.

Travis: Didn't seem to bother Bella at all.

Danielle: Yeah, we'll look at her.

Travis: Okay.

Travis: Fair point.

Travis: Totally fair point.

Danielle: Look at her.

Other Chris: She's from the Pacific Northwest.

Other Chris: She's used to it.

Chris: Yeah, that's my I was thinking of notice that damp cold.

Chris: You get used to it.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Travis: What's your favorite vampire you've seen in movies?

Travis: Is it now?

Travis: Gary oldman.

Travis: No, no?

Travis: Brad Pitt.

Chris: I would say mine is still Brad Pitt.

Chris: But I really like the interview with the vampire.

Danielle: I did watch that one.

Danielle: Did I watch that one?

Travis: I don't know.

Danielle: I watched something.

Danielle: What was the one where it was, like, the young girl that's interviewed with the vampire?

Travis: Probably it was Katie Dunn.

Chris: Kirsten Dunst.

Danielle: Yeah, baby.

Danielle: Kirsten Dunst.

Danielle: Yeah, I know.

Danielle: I would watch that one.

Travis: What was it?

Travis: Kirsten Dunst.

Travis: Then.

Travis: Was she your favorite vampire?

Danielle: Yeah, sure.

Travis: Okay.

Chris: She can be my favorite performances.

Travis: I agree.

Danielle: I can't, like, think of too many vampires and movies that I was all that interested in.

Travis: Yeah, you know what?

Danielle: It was Dracula from the Hotel Transylvania movie.

Travis: Oh, yeah.

Chris: Dracula pretty good.

Other Chris: Dad Killa.

Travis: Hey, we met dad killa on Halloween, remember?

Other Chris: Oh, yeah.

Travis: It's a dad killer.

Chris: He did that.

Other Chris: He didn't have any beer for us, though.

Travis: No.

Chris: To do stuff for Halloween.

Chris: What?

Travis: No.

Travis: I guess there was so much you.

Chris: Can buy that you got to save it for the really good friends who come by.

Travis: Yeah, he told me he liked my Charlie Brown Halloween.

Travis: Like Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown shirt.

Travis: Anything from the cool?

Travis: I'm like that's the wrong decade, though.

Travis: It is.

Chris: In Texas.

Danielle: Can't help us.

Travis: Yeah, he was a couple of beers in, but not for us.

Travis: Anyway, other Chris, what's your favorite vampire in films?

Other Chris: Favorite vampire in films?

Travis: Oh, man.

Danielle: It was Edward, wasn't it?

Other Chris: I've never seen any of those movies.

Travis: Oh, no.

Chris: I just don't know if you want to know of them.

Travis: No, you don't.

Chris: Then there's these great guys who do this, like movie psychology, YouTube.

Chris: They watched all of them.

Chris: The thing is, we watched all of them, so you don't have to and they dissect the very negative concepts in them while dissing on the movies.

Chris: So that's the best way to watch them.

Other Chris: I think I have to go with Keeper Sutherland.

Chris: Good choice.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Good choice.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: I don't know what movie you're referencing.

Chris: But I would lost Boys.

Other Chris: The Lost Boys.

Travis: Oh, okay.

Chris: Like the best 80s vampire movie made.

Travis: Something actually, from the nice, fantastic vampire portrayal there.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: What do you think, Chris?

Chris: My favorite is Louie from Vampire Interviews.

Chris: Vampire, right.

Chris: Pitts character.

Chris: I like the and rice stuff.

Chris: But there's so many vampires that didn't get movies.

Chris: That's sad.

Chris: That's true.

Chris: I was reading a book once about Marius the Roman one.

Chris: He pops up, I think, a little bit, in The Queen of the Damned.

Chris: I think he really went into him, and that was pretty cool.

Travis: Yes.

Chris: And some of her non vampire works are interesting, too.

Chris: My favorite one is Servant of the Bones.

Chris: That's about a guy who's basically kind of a genie type thing.

Chris: He was a Jewish kid in Babylon who was turned into a statue of Marduk for a holiday.

Chris: But he got trapped through the ceremony in the statue.

Chris: His bones are in there, and eventually through time, they decay.

Chris: But if you keep his skeleton, you can force him to come out and do s*** for you.

Chris: That's where he's kind of a genie thing I got you comes in.

Chris: That's pretty cool.

Travis: Rub his bones and he'll do stuff for you.

Chris: Basically, like the vampire books, it's his recounting, his life and experience.

Chris: So it's in that kind of universe, but it's not vampires, which I really liked.

Chris: Yeah, I tend to like her vampire things.

Chris: Haven't read that.

Travis: I like Queen of the Damned a lot.

Travis: Oh, the movie sucked.

Chris: That's what I heard.

Chris: A lot better than the movie adaptation.

Chris: I've only ever seen the movie, but the book is on my list at some point.

Travis: So no love for Kate Beckonsale like underworld.

Chris: Those were fun to forget, those existing.

Chris: I was really into those movies for a while and I just kind of forget about that.

Travis: Fortunately, her Hotness was enough to make like, five movies, even though none of them were good.

Other Chris: Her husband being the producer helped, especially early on.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: I just like some of the lore they put with it.

Chris: That was fun.

Chris: And the different characters.

Travis: Charles dance in there too.

Chris: Yes, he was.

Travis: Some of them, yeah.

Travis: It was like the Dracula analog or whatever, basically.

Travis: Yeah, I thought those were cool.

Travis: I listened to the soundtrack a lot while I was reading this book.

Chris: Nice.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: When I ran out of castlevania music.

Travis: Anyway, so vampires and movies are cool.

Travis: Daniel, how'd you like this movie?

Danielle: I mean, it was fine.

Danielle: It was weird.

Travis: It was fine.

Danielle: But it was fun.

Danielle: Especially because I had, like, movie popcorn that I was eating while watching.

Danielle: It perfect.

Travis: I've ever heard someone just describe it was okay.

Danielle: This particular movie, I mean, it was, like, totally weird.

Danielle: So strange.

Danielle: But, I mean, I wasn't mad at it, but I had the popcorn, so that probably helped.

Chris: There we go.

Chris: That's a win in my book.

Danielle: Yeah.

Travis: Hand her some popcorn.

Travis: She's happy.

Danielle: I like Hannah Reeves.

Travis: Yes.

Danielle: I like wynonna writer.

Travis: Yes.

Danielle: I liked basically all the people in there.

Danielle: And I thought that the guy that was playing the vampire, Gary Oldman, who it was, he looked like Johnny Depp now.

Danielle: It was like tripping depth.

Danielle: I'm like is Johnny Depp in this movie?

Danielle: Like no, long ago.

Chris: Yeah, he is totally the star.

Chris: I thought it was kind of a great like it felt like kind of a wrap for Keanu and Winona's 80s career.

Chris: Got them into this movie and it's kind of like the end of their 80s going into the nightmare s***, which was good and it was very weird.

Chris: But Gary Oldman was definitely the star once they got past his weird vampire old man look.

Chris: I didn't like the hair.

Travis: Oh, you didn't like the old hair?

Other Chris: Oh, man.

Travis: What's, the a** hair?

Travis: No, in the hair problems.

Other Chris: Such a good thing that I thought.

Chris: Was great because as we talk about in the book, that was a really kind of important first little like, hey, look, they put it in there.

Chris: There it is.

Chris: Possible they could have easily skipped over that.

Other Chris: They could have done.

Travis: It was very comfortable.

Chris: No, the style of the movie was really neat and interesting.

Chris: Yes, I did kind of lose interest in a few places, but that's okay.

Travis: True to the book.

Chris: I was watching it.

Chris: Yeah, you're right.

Chris: True to the book.

Chris: I thought it was pretty good adaptation as far as adaptations go and I love that.

Chris: Other ones I've seen recently, they kept the dream teams.

Chris: I like to think of them.

Chris: Everybody involved, doing fine of the things.

Travis: All that kind of stuff, all the.

Chris: Way from the 70s.

Chris: They like killed off certain people, change things around.

Chris: It was really just fan housing by the end.

Chris: So it is don't do that.

Travis: Right.

Chris: But it's good.

Chris: It's very visual treat.

Other Chris: Yeah, they want a costume design.

Chris: Yeah, it gets thinner.

Chris: I remember in this movie is a really big deal when it came out when we were kids, I'm like, okay, I can see it's.

Chris: Pretty bloody lot of blood in there.

Travis: Good.

Chris: Very good effects.

Other Chris: Very good in camera effects.

Travis: Yeah, right.

Chris: Absolutely.

Travis: What did you think of Chris?

Other Chris: I thought it was amazing.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: Yeah, it's a really beautiful movie.

Other Chris: And like, you know, aside from aside from the odd place where Canada reeves isn't great for every role.

Chris: He's not great for every role.

Other Chris: He's got some things that he's good at.

Other Chris: And being a young English middle class lawyer is probably not one of them.

Travis: No.

Chris: Although I did wonder if you could put at least Keanu Reeves mind from today back in time, if you play the character differently or not.

Other Chris: I think he probably would.

Chris: I think he's grown a lot.

Chris: I think his performance would be much better.

Other Chris: Yeah, I think it would be.

Other Chris: Winona Ryder was excellent, though.

Travis: Yes.

Other Chris: Talking about the other sort of young in the movie, the other youth.

Travis: Right.

Other Chris: I thought she was a great choice, but yeah, like everybody else.

Other Chris: Like fantastic acting.

Other Chris: Like I said, fantastic in camera effects.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: Lots of stuff that you would think is like, oh, they did this in post or, like, they did this somehow with compositing or something, right?

Other Chris: No, they did some crazy s*** with mirrors to make this work.

Other Chris: Or they did some, like, messed up I don't know, like construction or like some kind of puppetry or some crazy thing, like all camera amazing.

Other Chris: There was, like only, I think, like, one awkward compositing in there, and it's easy enough to overlook something like that.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: No, we went and watched it on the Fathom event.

Travis: So we watched it a couple of weeks back.

Chris: How was that?

Travis: And we probably walked in like I don't know.

Danielle: I was like, what happened?

Travis: And I feel like we missed a lot.

Danielle: What happens at the very beginning came.

Travis: In the middle of the backstory part, so it was already very intense when we were sitting there.

Chris: They go over the history of the region a tiny bit and talk about how the Ottomans came in and conquered territory and that Dracula is fighting for Christianity, the Christian world, against the evil Muslims, essentially.

Travis: They didn't say that.

Chris: But, you know no, but that's always the implication.

Chris: Even though in those stories, I tend to side with the Ottomans more often than not due to my own factors and things I've learned in time.

Travis: F*** the Ottomans.

Chris: No.

Travis: Wait.

Travis: You said you side with them.

Travis: F*** those other guys.

Chris: I side with them.

Danielle: Why did the lady die?

Danielle: What happened to her?

Travis: Okay, so the lady died because one of the other soldiers, intel, shot a letter in the window saying he had died.

Chris: The Ottomans did.

Chris: They tried to do some Psyops there and then.

Danielle: Did she, like, jump out the window or something?

Chris: Like kill herself?

Danielle: Okay.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: So he was off the battle, and they were both, like, madly in love, and he was doing the fighting, and it was got pretty hairy, but he still won by cleaving guys in half with his big sword like that, like you do.

Chris: But she heard they did a scifi operation on her and send a message that he had died.

Chris: So she killed herself.

Chris: Kind of Romeo and Juliet thing.

Chris: That's it up, kind of for the whole rest of the s***.

Chris: She died and he got home and, like, here's her body.

Chris: I'm sorry.

Chris: And he's like, what the f*** was I fighting for?

Chris: F*** you, Jesus.

Chris: Like that.

Chris: I'm going to make blood come out of this cross on the altar and my castle and become a vampire.

Danielle: How Satan?

Travis: Yeah, the devil.

Chris: They don't really say that.

Chris: They just the devil drew other forces and they respond.

Chris: It was kind of like he switched god.

Chris: He didn't know who's doing it, too.

Chris: But that one responded.

Other Chris: No, gave him vampire powers, switched gods and got vampire.

Chris: Yeah, basically.

Danielle: Is this, like, something that anyone could do?

Danielle: Like I know.

Danielle: I'm interested.

Travis: I don't recommend it.

Chris: Depends on the lore, because we're going to go to Romania.

Other Chris: I think you got to be.

Other Chris: Really p***** off at God.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Step one, get really p***** off.

Travis: Step two, stab across or something.

Danielle: Okay.

Chris: Blood comes out.

Chris: Just pick a different flavor.

Chris: It's all the same light.

Chris: As I learned from Hinduism, sometimes it needs to be some negative energy.

Chris: That's what they had.

Travis: Kali.

Travis: Whatnot?

Chris: She's a destructive force, but she does lead to new things.

Travis: You can worship ball or whatever.

Chris: She's pretty popular back in time.

Travis: Yeah, ball.

Travis: Anyway, watching it in the theater, I was like, but that was cool.

Travis: It was really great.

Travis: Seeing on the big screen was awesome.

Travis: And at the time, I'm like, Well, I mean, it's sort of going with the book, but I watched it again this morning.

Travis: I'm like, no, it's actually pretty accurate.

Chris: Yeah, it was.

Chris: The only major thing I thought they made a big emphasis on is they kind of turned it into a love story.

Chris: There's some good stuff to it.

Chris: Watched out Dracula a little bit more than what I was reading in the book.

Travis: I thought it was fine.

Travis: I probably didn't need it, but then I would agree.

Travis: I'm one who's like, I don't need an origin for f****** the mummy.

Travis: Like, he's a mummy, okay?

Travis: The guy is a wolf guy.

Travis: Like, I don't care.

Chris: Basically Egyptian zombies.

Travis: No, all of them do.

Travis: I've seen movies, Chris.

Chris: I've seen mummies.

Chris: They're all laying there pretty contentedly.

Chris: 500 years.

Chris: Well, who knows?

Chris: They did get them from the Egyptian Museum to the new Egyptian Museum, and they got to ride on, like, cool truck, ship things, go through Cairo.

Chris: It was a big to do last year.

Travis: I was hundreds of miles away from that.

Chris: That keeps them peaceful for another 100 years.

Travis: Yes.

Travis: They don't do anything around you because they know you're cool.

Chris: Okay.

Travis: You're an Egyptologist.

Travis: You're a fan.

Travis: But yeah, another movie.

Travis: The whole time thing, like, they would never make this again.

Travis: No.

Chris: Correct.

Travis: Especially not the way they did.

Travis: They tried making big monster movies, but it was all like, CG crap.

Travis: Yeah, yeah.

Chris: And that made me sad because I will say, like, speaking of mummy, I did see that Tom Cruise one.

Chris: Yes, I did like some aspects of it.

Chris: But I'm sad that it tanks so bad because I was really looking forward to seeing more of the other monsters being their captain, Dr.

Chris: Jekyll, Mr.

Chris: Russell Crow there.

Chris: I wanted to see him more.

Chris: I could give a s*** about the mummy, what I just seen, really.

Chris: But I wanted to see more of their dark universe and all that.

Other Chris: I just hate the fact that they're like, oh, we got to make a dark universe.

Chris: I just want to do all the monsters again.

Other Chris: Just make a f****** mummy movie.

Chris: Yes, I know.

Chris: You have already done half of them because they counted at Guillermo del Toro or maybe not him, but that wolf man one from 2011.

Chris: That was in the universe, which I really liked.

Chris: And then the Dracula movies.

Chris: Dracula Untold, that was in the universe.

Chris: And they were fine as standalones, but it's fine if they're linked a bit, too, through some lore.

Chris: Like I said, just make a mummy movie.

Chris: Make it scary.

Chris: I really love the old campy ones now that were from our youth, but make a scary one, too, and just.

Other Chris: Have it Brendan back.

Chris: Bring Rick O'Connell back.

Chris: He's old, he's fat.

Chris: Let's see him trying to run around and be like, I can do this anymore.

Chris: I need help.

Chris: And his 25 year old son helps him or something.

Chris: I don't fight Nazis.

Chris: He's old enough for that.

Chris: Like, what am I, world War II?

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Jones I don't know.

Travis: Classic universal monsters.

Travis: They don't need to cross over.

Travis: They don't I don't get anything out of it.

Travis: It's Frankenstein and Dracula.

Travis: Like, who gives a s***?

Other Chris: For real?

Chris: Do really great stories on their own, and that's it.

Chris: If you do want to link them, CG and like, oh, someone's reading a newspaper, and there's like, a blurb about Dr.

Chris: Jekyll doing an experiment.

Chris: Okay, that's our link.

Chris: Something like that.

Travis: Subtle nods is where we need to end.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Not the affinity war of monsters.

Other Chris: We also really don't need, like, the Abbott and Costello version.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: I mean, I'm all for it.

Travis: I'd watch that.

Travis: Seth rogen meets Frankenstein.

Travis: Like, I'd watch that.

Other Chris: Okay, yeah, I would watch that.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Seth and Evan get really high and meet Frankenstein.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Come on.

Other Chris: Wait, why haven't they made that movie?

Chris: I don't know.

Other Chris: God d*** it.

Chris: It should be the end of the book.

Chris: Monster.

Chris: He's like, I've been on a quest for, like, 200 years, and I finally figured it out.

Chris: It's getting high.

Chris: Something like that.

Chris: You're just token it up throughout La.

Chris: With Frankenstein or the monster or both.

Other Chris: Seth Rogen takes the monster to therapy.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: His daddy issues.

Chris: His creative issues.

Other Chris: Exactly.

Chris: So no longer afraid of fire.

Other Chris: Not so bad for therapy.

Travis: Yeah, fire not bad.

Other Chris: Which is good because then he can light his doob.

Travis: I don't know.

Travis: I thought you're going to say townspeople.

Travis: Like townspeople on fire now.

Travis: Unstoppable.

Chris: He's cast all that.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Although I guess the one thing I kind of, like, ran into with the love Story was like I guess she was sort of reliving her past life towards the end because she seems really into it.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: That was unlocked in her yeah.

Travis: But then sometimes not occasionally coming back to herself, like, oh, man, I'm unclean.

Other Chris: Right?

Travis: But I'm going to do it anyway.

Travis: It's fine.

Other Chris: Well, I mean, she was glamoured, basically.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: I guess it all works out.

Travis: And it gave her some more to do than just, like, talk about how he was on a boat the whole time at the end.

Travis: So that was appreciated.

Other Chris: Oh, it's just running waters.

Chris: Right.

Travis: And I appreciate it in the movie that it wasn't like, let's do months of treatments and go back and forth with her almost being a vampire and then not.

Other Chris: Right?

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Hey, Danielle, how'd you like all of the sex in this movie?

Danielle: It was kind of weird.

Travis: How did you like werewolf Dracula, like, humping some lady out in the field?

Danielle: Yeah, like that doesn't look very comfortable, so I'm not sure what that was doing for her, buddy.

Chris: Right, yeah, it did not look very comfortable.

Travis: I don't think that vampires are all about comfort.

Travis: I don't know.

Other Chris: No, seems like not.

Travis: No, not want to.

Chris: Because it should be lulling you into complacency, but maybe, I don't know.

Chris: I think it also depends on the vampire.

Danielle: Yeah, her blonde friend was like a freak.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: She did not get the nice, gentle wooing.

Travis: No.

Travis: I liked the note when you first meet Lucy in there, she's like a very pure, naive soul.

Travis: And then she's talking about like, hey, can I touch it?

Travis: Whip it out.

Travis: Like, I hear it's really big.

Other Chris: Right.

Travis: And like looking at Kamasutra in the Arabian Nights and stuff.

Danielle: Scandalous.

Travis: Very scandalous.

Chris: That got me.

Chris: So I'm like, that's not the ripe.

Chris: I'm like, oh, they're hiding it.

Chris: They're hiding it on the bookshelf.

Travis: Oh, okay.

Travis: Because I was going to ask that.

Chris: Kamas Sushi doesn't go in the Arabian Nights.

Travis: I was going to say that that's.

Chris: What they must be doing because free taboo in their society.

Chris: Not going to hide it under the bed, just put it out in the open.

Chris: You know what it is.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: No other person is going to know somebody who's really into the Arabian Nights and they'll be surprised.

Travis: Well, I was about to suggest we do the Arabian Nights next.

Travis: I'm like, is this what it's about?

Chris: I know they have a good miniseries adaptation, but I don't know if they have a good movie adaptation.

Chris: And Aladdin usually differs pretty significantly from the Arabian way.

Travis: Man, oh, man.

Travis: First waist just for like a horse c***.

Chris: I can't remember.

Chris: This is where the open sesame thing comes from.

Chris: It comes from that story.

Chris: So that's what happens.

Chris: And the genie is not really nice.

Other Chris: Of course, the genies generally are not.

Chris: Because they're actually gin and they f****** hate humans because we're created, I think, before us, but they're also created out of fire.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: We of course, humans have not been nice to the gym either, so lots of little stuff in there.

Chris: But guess what, kids?

Chris: Mohamed came for everybody tales about that.

Chris: Yeah, people like giving the Quran to the gym.

Travis: Oh, okay.

Travis: I spaced out for a second.

Travis: I missed the connective tissue.

Chris: I've heard tell there's a few jinn who end up accepting Islam at some point.

Chris: That's different stories.

Chris: So that's like a win in that story.

Travis: That's something.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: So can vampires.

Other Chris: Except Jesus.

Chris: I think they can.

Travis: Probably work out well for them.

Chris: But generally the cultural taboos in places where Christianity was prevalent in these times they wouldn't try.

Chris: Yeah, but there's nothing I've ever said that read that says they couldn't.

Travis: Right.

Travis: The thing I was thinking about doing all of the sex scenes was a like, no one ever made a move to COVID any tip.

Chris: No.

Travis: I found you naked in the heat.

Travis: Like, come on, let's go.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Or even when she's in bed and her fiancee comes in, wesley comes in.

Travis: I'll just cover your bottom part.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Not your b****.

Travis: Just conveniently forget that part.

Other Chris: It might be a while before I get to see it again.

Other Chris: I take what I can get.

Travis: Like, I'm going to take my sweet time.

Travis: But also, I was wondering, should this have been something we read into the book?

Travis: Is it just scamless enough having the idea that biting your neck?

Other Chris: I definitely read this into the book.

Other Chris: I did not expose not exactly that.

Chris: But definitely like, only one layer garments that are kind of maybe see through, but for the vampire to ladies.

Other Chris: Well, no, everything about it.

Other Chris: How can I explain this?

Other Chris: Like, first of all, it's all epistolary, so everything's being told in the first person and it's all being written down in the book.

Travis: Right.

Other Chris: And it's being written by Victorians.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Right.

Other Chris: So first of all, they talk about, like talking about Mina and talking about I'm losing a name here.

Other Chris: Come on, Lucy, help me out.

Other Chris: Yeah, Lucy.

Other Chris: So talking about Lucy going out in the cold in her nightdress.

Other Chris: Right?

Travis: Right.

Other Chris: So that would be a thing.

Other Chris: And being bent over the bench by a dark figure with red eyes, all of that.

Other Chris: She could have easily left out some s*** there.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: Right.

Other Chris: In describing the scene that she was seeing just as Lucy probably left some s*** out in the beginning when she was like, three men proposed to me.

Other Chris: I don't know what the f***'s going on with this.

Other Chris: It's a shock.

Other Chris: Why are all these men so interested in me?

Other Chris: Giggle, giggle.

Other Chris: She knows what she's doing, right?

Other Chris: And she's just not saying it in her letter.

Other Chris: She understands why and, like, it's pretty well implied that, like, you know, Mina is obviously the more chased of the two of them because she's only got, like, the one guy and she's like going she's doing the right Victorian thing and Lucy is doing it to people.

Chris: According to them.

Other Chris: She's leading all these dudes on, basically.

Travis: Having sexual positions and stuff.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Other Chris: And then you've got, like I don't know, you've got like, another part of the book where this is something that comes into play.

Other Chris: If you're talking about, like, the reliability of the narration, you've got Jonathan being in the castle talking about being attacked by vampire ladies and he's like, but I totally didn't do anything, you guys.

Other Chris: I totally didn't.

Other Chris: I maintain my purity because I just want everyone to know that I wrote it down.

Chris: But it was really hard.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Travis: Wink.

Chris: I mean, he may have maintained his purity, and it was really hard.

Travis: Wink.

Chris: He just didn't have anything of it.

Chris: Like, proper guys were not known to cheat that easily.

Travis: Yeah, we sort of already talked about the costumes, but, like, why was Dracula in, like, a weird Power Ranger suit?

Travis: What was that about in the flashback?

Chris: I don't know.

Chris: It was almost like he didn't look like he was wearing muscles.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Muscles in you.

Other Chris: Yeah, his armor looked like muscles.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Which I know looks like German armor stuff around that time.

Chris: There's like, some of that for some things.

Chris: It's supposed to look more like florentine clothing when they do that.

Chris: Not muscles in you.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: It was just a stylistic choice.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Coppola doesn't do anything.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Basically.

Travis: And then when he was like, basically the Pope, like old timing clothes.

Danielle: That was fun.

Travis: That's cool.

Other Chris: Again, the costume designer was Japanese doing whatever, and so it was like, here's a very sort of Japanese noble kind of thing to wear.

Travis: Right.

Other Chris: Same thing with the hairstyle, right?

Chris: Yeah, I guess so.

Other Chris: A little bit of a samurai component to the hair.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Agreed.

Travis: Yes.

Travis: So how'd you like all the vampire powers, Danielle?

Danielle: Why was he also like a wolf?

Danielle: I don't understand that part.

Travis: I mean, I think it was because he can turn into a wolf.

Chris: Yeah, he has powers over wolves, too, which we talked about.

Other Chris: Wolf.

Other Chris: And he can control wolves and also other lower life forms like rats.

Chris: So he turned into them at one point, right?

Other Chris: Yeah, he totally did.

Chris: And this was all from a time before, really.

Chris: We had separated the empires out from werewolf, in least English fund lore jury.

Chris: They never had a vampire, but they had werewolves.

Chris: The shapeshifter, I think it's kind of a blend of them to maybe be a little more familiar for the British audience at the time.

Chris: But I don't know.

Danielle: I wasn't sure at first that was even the same guy.

Travis: Speaking of same guy, how do you like him jumping out of his Earth in box and being sexy all of a sudden?

Danielle: Oh, yeah.

Chris: I was like, wow, that dirt really rejuvenation.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Travis: I think we were both like, oh, wow.

Travis: The people in our row were like.

Chris: Oh, I just saw, like, shriveled up.

Chris: All I could picture when I seen him that way was the Mr.

Chris: Burns version one of the triassa horns too much?

Chris: But yeah, when he pops out, he's like, oh, that's a change.

Travis: I didn't know a handsome man was going to be in this.

Chris: Right?

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: And I think just like in the book, in the movie, I liked the early parts maybe the best because it was a little more subtle about s***.

Travis: Like the scenes with his shadow not catching up with him.

Travis: I was like, this is awesome.

Travis: I love that so much.

Other Chris: And once again, all in camera.

Other Chris: Right, man?

Travis: And I'm glad they did because it would look s***** if it was CGI.

Chris: It would have.

Travis: It would have, yeah.

Travis: And him like, floating into scenes for no reason.

Travis: The carriage driver has been, like, grabbing it, floating in like it was a dream.

Travis: That's awesome.

Chris: Yeah, right?

Other Chris: Super cool.

Travis: That part worked the best, I think, for me.

Travis: But.

Travis: I've got a handful of other notes from watching through it.

Travis: But was Van Helsing, like, supposed to be the pre sky from Before Reborn or that was just coincidental.

Other Chris: I don't know if that was just like, hey, we have Anthony Hawkins.

Danielle: He was funny.

Travis: Oh, yeah.

Travis: He was great.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Travis: I wondered if they're hinting at that because I picked up on the second viewing.

Travis: That when he figured out it was Dracula.

Travis: He was like, f****** thrilled.

Travis: Like, man, I've been waiting my whole life for this.

Travis: I wonder if he didn't realize he was also a reincarnation from back then.

Travis: That's why he was so interested in hunting him down.

Other Chris: Is that or, you know, preventing the vampire apocalypse?

Travis: Yeah, well, whatever.

Other Chris: In retrospect.

Danielle: That sounds like a later date problem.

Travis: Yeah, that's a future, not a right now problem.

Danielle: That's what we do.

Travis: I mean, if they had started in the would already be a now problem, I bet.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: It would be very much a heavily now problem.

Chris: It started in the 1890s.

Travis: Yes.

Travis: I liked that they added in that Renfield had been like the lawyer that was supposed to be working with Dracula before.

Other Chris: Yeah, I thought that was a good addition.

Other Chris: Drove him pricing, too.

Other Chris: It makes a lot more sense why he would actually know about Dracula.

Chris: Yeah, right.

Chris: Exactly.

Travis: Right.

Travis: And why Dracula would seek him out in the asylum.

Travis: I thought that's a good thing.

Travis: And I also like that they kept the f****** letter.

Travis: Who's like, Dear my friend, come to my house.

Travis: Love, dear.

Chris: Right.

Travis: Like I poked Daniel on the ribs.

Travis: Like they kept the letters.

Travis: Like, what are you talking about?

Travis: Okay, but I love that.

Travis: Also, the vampire puns were f****** on point.

Chris: Oh, really?

Travis: I never drink wine.

Travis: I hear you're a man of good taste.

Travis: I like the ladies, when they first introduced looking at p***.

Travis: Like typical p*** consumers.

Travis: Like, oh, gross.

Travis: That's awful.

Travis: I will watch some more.

Other Chris: What's on the next page?

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: How do you even do that?

Travis: I mean, it seemed pretty self explanatory.

Travis: Just be a little flexible.

Travis: It's fine.

Travis: Yeah, it's fine.

Chris: Just a little.

Travis: I like that the asylum was, like, right out of hellraiser.

Other Chris: Oh, yeah, right.

Other Chris: They made it like the worst possible place.

Travis: Right.

Travis: And the guards were in cages on their heads.

Chris: Yeah, that was interesting.

Danielle: Listen, they're not going to get my face, right?

Other Chris: That's a really bad idea.

Chris: Well, back in day, that would have been for the fighters themselves.

Chris: They would have to wear the cage.

Travis: Yeah, that does make a little more sense.

Travis: But the person who's going to have issues biting.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: It'd be real easy to just grab those bars and yank one direction or the other.

Travis: Right?

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: You don't want to give a bunch of violent people an extra hand holder, too.

Other Chris: It's not a good idea to twist your neck around.

Chris: Right.

Travis: Not a good idea.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: And like, those early scenes with Renfield and C word felt like very manic, very 90s, like, drug movie.

Travis: But I guess they made Seaward like some sort of, like, drug addict.

Travis: Like he was shooting up his own medicine.

Other Chris: Well, he was in the book, too, kind of.

Travis: I completely missed that.

Other Chris: Again, part of those jobs, reading research, reading into the narration again is him talking about having trouble sleeping and giving himself drugs for it and saying, good thing I'm a doctor and I know that it's a bad path to go down.

Other Chris: I'm totally not going to do the wrong thing here.

Chris: Right.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Other Chris: So it is hinted at in the book that he's got a little bit of an issue with I can't remember if it's Mclaudenham or whatever.

Travis: Opium.

Other Chris: It was something else.

Other Chris: It was something newer than that.

Other Chris: I think it was ether.

Travis: Okay.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Other Chris: He had an ether problem, kind of.

Chris: A lot of people did.

Other Chris: Or he was saying in the book, like, good thing I haven't developed an ether problem.

Other Chris: I know how to use ether and not develop an ether problem.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: I don't know about you guys, but I'm always nervous in a movie when someone else is shaving somebody's neck.

Travis: I don't like that at all.

Travis: Even if it's not a vampire, we're.

Chris: Pretty much chaimo place.

Travis: We don't like it.

Travis: Oh, yeah.

Chris: That's perfectly normal.

Travis: No, I don't like that.

Chris: It starts using razors.

Chris: So if you could have someone else do it for you, you did?

Travis: Yes.

Danielle: Your ballet would do it.

Chris: At your barber shop.

Chris: Doing it can be pretty nice.

Other Chris: Very nice.

Travis: I've had it done once before, too, and I didn't like what makes you.

Danielle: Think of Sweeney Todd?

Travis: Well, it was like our anniversary or something.

Travis: I'm like, I'm going to get a really nice shave.

Travis: But the guy wasn't good at it, so we went over many times to get it shaved and I had, like, red marks all over my face.

Chris: And it's terribly and Daniel is like.

Travis: I don't like it.

Other Chris: You need to find an old guy.

Chris: Doing it for, like, 30 years.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Other Chris: That's like the young people.

Chris: Like Tony or something.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: Or you need to find somebody who's like a f****** hipster and cuff jeans yeah.

Other Chris: With a completely spoon face barber shop.

Chris: And he's got a needle bar, you'll know?

Travis: Right.

Travis: To him, in retrospect, it did seem like he probably had used a straight razor for haircuts more than for, like, beard shaves.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: Okay.

Chris: That makes sense.

Travis: And thinking back to his technique anyway, so you remember the part where all the ladies were having sex with counter reeves.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: What was that double lady vampire thing?

Travis: What was that like?

Travis: What was happening?

Travis: What was happening there?

Other Chris: I think they were just trying to show that she's like f***** up and not human.

Chris: Yeah, I think so.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Eating the best ride of your life while you die.

Travis: I read in the trivia on Amazon that they contracted all those women to be on set and be naked, but everyone was too embarrassed to ask them to take their clothes off.

Travis: So Francis Ford Coppola reportedly had to ask his son to go do it.

Other Chris: Oh, wow.

Travis: Could you tell them to come naked for this?

Chris: Can they get naked now, please?

Travis: Yeah, I'm not going to ask them.

Travis: You asked them.

Other Chris: Oh my god.

Travis: I'm going to pass them a note on the way to set.

Chris: Yeah, that's valid.

Other Chris: That's hilarious.

Other Chris: Hurt everybody.

Other Chris: That would be really funny if they were just like in the movie, like wearing their robes that they wore a set from their trailer.

Other Chris: Yeah, like a bunch of vampires wearing, like, terry claw.

Chris: Well, they had it by then, so it could be done.

Travis: Yeah, fine.

Travis: Also, that seemed like what good is it wearing a cross if they can just melt it?

Travis: Psych.

Travis: No cross for you helping.

Other Chris: It depends on the vampire and their level of strength at the time, I think.

Travis: Yeah, right.

Other Chris: So like, they talked about different times of day.

Other Chris: They have different susceptibilities and whatnot.

Other Chris: And Van Helsing even says, like, yeah, cross ain't going to be much good against somebody like Dracula.

Other Chris: He's way too old and powerful for this to really make a difference when he's at his most powerful.

Travis: Right.

Chris: But yet something sacred, though.

Chris: Like a host could still injure a little bit.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Why isn't John aren't sacred enough?

Travis: Has he been blessed?

Chris: He's the dirty, dirty boy.

Chris: I don't know.

Chris: It's probably because he can't resist.

Chris: And like I said, they're just much more powerful.

Other Chris: He wasn't the one yet.

Travis: Oh, that's right.

Chris: Right.

Travis: He hadn't leveled up.

Chris: I got you.

Danielle: Well, I like to have like I'm going gray now.

Danielle: I'm back to my normal color.

Danielle: Now I'm gray again.

Travis: I like that the idea drained.

Travis: I like the idea of his hair changing.

Travis: They just needed a little bit better continuing with it.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: I also like the Dracula's powers include, like tickle fights and like sorority sleepovers.

Travis: I'm influencing Lucy and Mina now.

Travis: And they're going to run outside and kiss.

Travis: Because why not?

Travis: Why not?

Travis: Exactly.

Other Chris: They just need to add that to the movie, that's why.

Chris: Yeah, totally.

Travis: They should have just not had him in that scene.

Travis: It should just been their choice.

Other Chris: What girls do.

Travis: All their men were away, so that's what they do.

Travis: Right, Daniel?

Other Chris: Yeah.

Other Chris: I'm not sure where to slot this in, but like, one story I wanted to be sure to get in here.

Travis: Was.

Other Chris: The anecdote about how Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder, like, joked that they were actually married for a long time because they did get, like, this marriage ceremony filmed in some tiny church in Eastern Europe.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: And it's a full name priest or whoever didn't speak any English.

Other Chris: Like, nobody around there spoke any English.

Other Chris: So they just performed a wedding ceremony.

Chris: They did a full Orthodox wedding ceremony, just to use all of it.

Other Chris: And so they're like, yeah, I think we're married.

Chris: They had a lot of fun with that throughout the years.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Travis: Nice.

Travis: Well, it doesn't count if it's another country or Vegas.

Travis: Or Vegas, right.

Travis: Wait a minute.

Travis: So is everybody wait a minute.

Danielle: Our hours counts.

Travis: Okay.

Chris: Your certificate, your paperwork was submitted through the state of Nevada.

Danielle: But most people don't because they're drunk and they don't get their marriage certificate.

Danielle: And then they just go have Elvis perform their ceremony.

Chris: Yeah, they do.

Chris: They have to go find the one that does the divorces.

Danielle: That's right.

Other Chris: Can you find an Elvis to divorce you, too?

Travis: I bet you could.

Travis: I bet you could.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: That's great.

Travis: And I actually really liked that scene because it was juxtaposed those, like, Mina and Keanu getting married juxtaposed to Lucy and Dracula, like, consummating their relationship in a much different way.

Other Chris: Right.

Travis: Busting and ripping her apart.

Travis: I don't think we talked about him much, but Kerry Ellews was always awesome.

Other Chris: Harry Elwest is awesome in everything.

Travis: He's the perfect guy to be, like, very British and disdainful whenever we walked in.

Travis: Like, what God's name is going on here?

Other Chris: Yes.

Travis: Watch your colonial tongue.

Chris: That's supposed to be a jab at a friendly person.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Like, he was appropriately Victorianly.

Chris: Tender when necessary, but still stand offish cause Victorian.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Wasn't he also in a shadow of the vampire as, like, the director?

Travis: I think he was.

Travis: And that was supposedly about the filming of Nose foratu right.

Travis: Research I should have done before.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Speaking more on crosses and practical effects.

Travis: Like that one shot where Dracula's big old bat sets that cross on fire was like, awesome.

Chris: That was cool.

Travis: That's so cool.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: That's how much I hate Jesus.

Chris: Big disdain.

Chris: But just because he let his wife die but she is the love of his life.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Made the impaler less cruel.

Travis: Yes.

Travis: A way more Dracula.

Travis: Draculae type of ending to this movie that was in the book.

Travis: Like, s*** actually had to happen.

Travis: They can just oh, and he's dead.

Chris: Right.

Chris: They had a big long thing for his death.

Chris: And this it was very appropriate for this movie and was fancy.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: I think that the love story that they kind of added in, like, did make the ending more effective.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: Because it was like, oh, well, she had to do it.

Travis: Right.

Other Chris: As opposed to the book where it's like, oh, we got him.

Other Chris: He's dead.

Travis: He fell.

Travis: What?

Chris: Years later, we had a baby.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Other Chris: It literally was just like we cut off his head it's fine.

Travis: We got him accomplished.

Travis: Jinx.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: I guess you're right.

Travis: It had to be her because like, that was his whole reason.

Travis: He's like, I hate you, Jesus.

Travis: I'm coming back and I'm going to get you so I can have my Lisa Beth or whatever, or whatever her name was.

Travis: And then she killed him.

Travis: So like, alright, it's okay.

Travis: I guess that's fine.

Travis: I give up.

Travis: Right?

Travis: But since we didn't have didn't have a postscript in this one, Daniel, what do you think happened after that?

Travis: Like, if your wife was like, I'm really in love with a vampire and I'm going to chase him across the world, do you think they can reconcile that marriage afterwards?

Danielle: I think that's over.

Travis: Do you think they end up getting divorced afterwards?

Danielle: I don't know.

Danielle: Was she going to turn into a vampire?

Danielle: What was she doing after he died?

Travis: That's what I'm asking you.

Chris: No, she freed.

Chris: She would have otherwise if she was freed by his death.

Danielle: She wanted to be freed.

Danielle: She wanted to love him.

Travis: Yeah, she seemed into it.

Chris: I don't think she did, though.

Travis: It depends on which.

Danielle: There's going to be a lot of.

Chris: Counseling for that marriage and raptured by him and having his long dead wife coming back out in her.

Chris: I don't think she would have wanted to keep doing that if she had an active choice.

Chris: But that's just me, and that's how I was doing the movie.

Other Chris: Maybe I'm a weird person, but I don't really distinguish between what you want when your brain isn't working properly versus what you want when your brain is working properly.

Other Chris: The feelings are the same.

Other Chris: They're all legitimate.

Travis: Right.

Other Chris: So it would be pretty f****** hard to reconcile that, I think, once it's over.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Chris: I don't know.

Other Chris: I think, oh, s***, I really did want this for a long time.

Travis: Yes.

Chris: But I trust that that was fully your feelings or just your feelings being influenced by this condition.

Other Chris: As somebody who is bipolar and has been manic and has had fullblown psychosis, I can tell you that there is actually no difference between the feelings that you have when you are in quote unquote reality and the feelings that you have.

Other Chris: It is real to you while it's happening.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: So whatever influence she was under, it was real to her while it was happening, I'm sure.

Travis: Right.

Chris: So it can also discount it as well later on, depending on how her mental state is.

Chris: She can yes, when it happened to me, but it wasn't real.

Other Chris: But it's very difficult because it's a vampire.

Travis: Right.

Other Chris: I'm telling you, it's very difficult.

Travis: I don't know.

Chris: I don't trust the s*** that happens in my mind because I know half of it's a false story anyways.

Chris: That's my thing from mine is like I'm telling myself lies and stories about myself all the time, but not so I know I can't believe everything that I think or.

Other Chris: Feel all the time.

Other Chris: But not psychotic ones.

Chris: That's true.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: It's just a little different when it's psychosis.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Because when I was working at places and stuff, that's what happens.

Chris: Like when someone who's in a psychotic episode of moment asks you're having some bad schizophrenic stuff or something, like, I'm hearing all this stuff, I'm seeing these things, like, this is real and all this stuff is this happened?

Chris: If they are clear enough somewhere to ask, is this happening?

Chris: Or what do you think about it?

Chris: We're all like, well, basically I totally understand that what you are experiencing is very real to you.

Other Chris: Yes.

Chris: And it's very valid to you.

Chris: It's just like, I see no evidence that there's a devil behind you right now trying to do something.

Chris: But I'm going to help you deal with that so you can continue on in your life.

Other Chris: Right.

Chris: But it's like yeah, no, it's definitely real to you.

Chris: Right.

Chris: And unfortunately I can't fix that for you.

Other Chris: Exactly.

Other Chris: And she's going to be messed up with it for a while afterwards, I would say.

Travis: Yeah, you would think.

Other Chris: I would agree.

Chris: Once it goes away in this movie than in the book.

Other Chris: Yes.

Other Chris: But yeah, once it goes away, you still have to deal with the fact that I felt this way.

Chris: Or you have all the memories of that.

Other Chris: Exactly.

Other Chris: So it ain't going to be difficult for her.

Other Chris: It ain't going to be easy for her going forward.

Travis: Right.

Travis: And like, we've talked about this in much less extreme situations than, like, Vampireism, but like, the people like, oh, I didn't mean to do that, I was drunk, like yeah, but you did though, right?

Travis: I did.

Travis: That's not really an excuse.

Travis: It may be less inhibited, but you cheat on me because you were drunk.

Travis: You still cheated.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Maybe you should have been drunk, I don't know.

Chris: Yeah, and maybe you could have controlled that.

Chris: Then you got drunk.

Chris: So there's a whole issue there.

Travis: So I'm saying kyano should have left her.

Travis: Yes.

Chris: Didn't do that.

Travis: I'm glad you're safe now.

Travis: But I just inherited all this money.

Travis: You can have half of it and just go away.

Chris: That's what you would have done.

Chris: Like, you have the country house, right?

Chris: I'm never going to see you again.

Chris: But you'll probably need yeah, but they'll still be married.

Travis: I'm going to track down those vampire ladies if they're still around.

Chris: I don't think you could get divorced then, unless she was.

Chris: That's how we got some of those 19th century oh, my God stories.

Chris: Like, oh, I'm in love with you, my younger what's?

Chris: The one with the governess and the Lord, but his wife is mentally ill in the attic or something.

Travis: Oh, yeah.

Travis: What was that?

Travis: Jane Eric.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: They take a divorce.

Chris: She has to die.

Travis: Chris's power went out.

Travis: That's why he's frozen on your screen.

Travis: Any final thoughts about the movie?

Travis: Like, would you recommend it to people?

Danielle: I don't think so.

Danielle: It's not that kind of movie that I would recommend to people.

Danielle: No, I mean, obviously.

Danielle: But there's certain things that don't come to my mind.

Danielle: We're like, oh, hey, you should really watch this movie.

Danielle: It's not that kind of a movie that I'm going to recommend.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: You wouldn't recommend it to Tracy even though she loves no Supernatural?

Danielle: No, my family wouldn't be interested in it.

Chris: You don't think I would recommend it?

Travis: Sorry.

Travis: No, go ahead.

Chris: I would recommend it to Cinephiles and people who really enjoy the artistry of the movie 100%.

Chris: They should see it.

Chris: Anyone who's like, of course all the Dracula fans have seen it.

Chris: But anyone who's coming into this that wants, like, a fun adaptation that's pretty faithful, even though it has some very different elements, should watch it.

Chris: But yeah, it's not for everybody.

Travis: No.

Chris: Especially if people are really a fan of, like, campy Dracula too.

Travis: It's not really that.

Travis: Yeah, you need Melodramatic Dracula if you want to watch this movie.

Travis: Yeah, right.

Travis: For sure.

Danielle: I wouldn't tell people, like, it's horrible and don't go watch it.

Danielle: But it's not something that I was just hunting down because it's not usually.

Travis: Got a dolly shot over there.

Travis: Cameron dolly shot off for a minute.

Chris: Okay.

Travis: So I got an answer from Hamsung and from Danielle.

Travis: Would you recommend this movie to people?

Other Chris: Oh, h*** yeah.

Other Chris: Yeah, that's the only correct answer.

Travis: You must recommend it to people.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: Like, holy s***.

Other Chris: Like, we've already been over the costumes are incredible.

Other Chris: Sharon pointed this out, too.

Other Chris: And it's something that we talked about after watching the movie.

Other Chris: But it feels like a throwback to an older monster movie just because it's like all shot in studio on sets.

Other Chris: And the costumes are so great and the effects are so great.

Other Chris: It feels like an old studio movie even though it was made in the it's the kind of thing that they wouldn't f****** make anymore.

Other Chris: So, like, if you want to see a movie that's like an actual movie, this is a great thing to watch.

Travis: Right?

Other Chris: Like, holy s***, they made a film.

Travis: Right?

Travis: It's kind of crazy to me with like the resurgent of like, you know, analog types of audio and stuff.

Travis: Like people being like, oh, I'm going to listen on my f****** vinyl and I'll have a cassette tape.

Travis: That there hasn't really been that kind of, I don't know, boutique type filmmaking anymore, I guess, because they just can't get it financed.

Other Chris: Yeah, they make those movies.

Other Chris: They just don't spend that much time in theaters anymore, I guess.

Other Chris: And like, you know, they still have like all of the I don't know, like the A 24 and some of the Blum House ones are, like, solid movies.

Other Chris: You do still have, like, some smaller movies, but like, nothing like this, where it's like it has a decent size budget, right?

Other Chris: And it's just a film yeah, it's not like.

Travis: It'S not setting up a dark universe.

Other Chris: It's not setting up a dark universe.

Other Chris: And it's not like some it's not a big blockbuster or anything.

Other Chris: It's not like, you know, it's just a movie that had a decent budget and a good script and a good director and we're just going to make it.

Travis: Yeah, I want more things like that.

Travis: More of that, please.

Other Chris: Yeah, bring that back.

Other Chris: I don't honestly need to see I'm not even excited about the new Black Panther.

Other Chris: I have finally gotten to the point where I don't care about these anymore.

Travis: Yeah, I mean, you can only stay excited about a string of stories for so long.

Travis: And over a decade, it's pretty long.

Chris: 15 years almost.

Other Chris: Been a while.

Chris: I think sustaining it this long has been pretty good.

Chris: We'll see what happens when we get closer to 20.

Other Chris: I haven't cared about any of the TV shows, really.

Other Chris: Wanda vision was really good.

Other Chris: Wanda vision was really good.

Other Chris: But yeah, I hit Saturation a while ago.

Other Chris: I can't find it in me to care anymore.

Other Chris: But if somebody made a movie that was just like, oh, we were talking about Jinn earlier, right there's, that movie with Idrasselba.

Travis: Oh yeah.

Chris: 5000 years longing.

Chris: Yeah, it looks really interesting.

Other Chris: I'm excited about that one.

Travis: Yeah, where's that?

Chris: It came out.

Travis: Oh, it did?

Chris: Yeah, I think it did.

Other Chris: Well then I need to watch it.

Chris: I wanted to go see it, we.

Chris: Just didn't have time.

Chris: And I think it left here.

Chris: Some s*** stays and some s*** leaked really quick.

Other Chris: Now I can imagine that it didn't stay long in the theater.

Other Chris: Like I was saying earlier, nothing does anymore.

Chris: Especially if it's unique and individual and stuff like that.

Travis: No one wants to finance something that isn't a franchise anymore.

Chris: And the franchise is guaranteed to print money.

Chris: Right, but that also distorts everything.

Chris: So much.

Chris: Everything has to be a franchise at each one.

Chris: Again, half a billion dollars.

Other Chris: I think that's going to be changing.

Other Chris: Because if I'm reaching Saturation on this s***, that means that like, a lot of other people are too.

Other Chris: Like, I think I'm one of the people who've held out the longest on this s***.

Chris: Yeah, me too.

Chris: Pretty much all the movies and they come out, they don't always go first weekend anymore.

Chris: But no, I have seen them all.

Chris: But I'm also kind of getting like I'm intrigued by the project.

Chris: I'm also like, well, if I wait someone comes out on Disney Plus, that's okay too.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: What's going to be new and interesting about this one?

Travis: As far as recommendations go, I would recommend this to many people.

Travis: Maybe not to everybody.

Travis: Like for instance, my mom decided she was going to read Dracula along with us.

Travis: I wouldn't recommend she watch it.

Travis: It's not really her cup of tea.

Travis: But anyone who really likes, like we were saying, like auto type filmmaking, like hardcore like filmmaking.

Travis: You should check it out.

Travis: Even if you don't like monsters or quote unquote, scary movies.

Travis: Even though there's not really yeah, there's.

Other Chris: Nothing really scary about it.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: It's just that gothic or athletic environment, that's all.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Remake it and give Keanu another chance.

Chris: Make advant housing this time, though.

Other Chris: Yeah.

Other Chris: Make Keanu Van Helsing this time.

Other Chris: That would be great.

Travis: What's?

Travis: That kid from The Stranger Things make him the new Jonathan.

Travis: The guy from Ghostbusters?

Other Chris: The Finn wolfhard?

Travis: Yeah, he'd be good.

Other Chris: I think he could do a good British accent.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: I had to think for a second.

Other Chris: He's not actually British.

Travis: Right.

Chris: No idea.

Other Chris: He's never known these days.

Other Chris: God d*** it.

Travis: Still a common one.

Travis: Anyway.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: So, again, I would recommend the book to fewer people, but the movie more widely.

Other Chris: Yes.

Travis: Anyway, so do you have anything else that's good?

Travis: Anything else that you're watching right now or being entertained by?

Danielle: Oh, it's time for the cheesy Christmas movie season.

Travis: Oh, God, you're right.

Danielle: It's time to watch all those and make fun of them.

Travis: Oh, jeez, that would be great.

Travis: You want to talk about the one we watched last night?

Danielle: Falling for Christmas was exactly how you would expect it to be.

Travis: No, it wasn't.

Danielle: Yes, it was.

Travis: No, it wasn't.

Travis: I wanted him to end up with Ralph.

Danielle: Yeah, Ralph would have been a great couple.

Travis: Come back and be like, we've decided we're getting married.

Travis: He was very impressed with his survival skills.

Danielle: Well, he went with Terry.

Danielle: He was close enough.

Danielle: I knew he was going to be another dude.

Travis: Yeah, fine.

Travis: Okay.

Travis: I honestly slept through that part.

Travis: I don't remember him getting with anybody.

Travis: Yeah, it's what happened at the end.

Travis: Like, her dad found her.

Danielle: Yeah.

Danielle: Then she broke off the engagement and Tad left with the guy that's supposed to be styling her.

Danielle: Terry.

Danielle: He was the one that was trying to, like that was in charge of her when she needed her hair done and all that stuff.

Danielle: He was like the blonde guy, and he was the one that looked in the window when they were getting ready to go in her bright pink.

Danielle: And he's like she's like, don't bother me, or whatever.

Danielle: And he's like, oh.

Danielle: He's like it's very colorful.

Danielle: And then he ended up with him.

Travis: Of course.

Travis: Of course.

Danielle: Pretty good.

Travis: Do you guys have anything else that's good?

Travis: No.

Travis: Aside from use school?

Travis: Aside from weddings.

Chris: Weddings.

Travis: Did you step on a glass?

Chris: No.

Travis: Did you lift them in a chair?

Chris: Okay, pretty non denominational.

Travis: Fair enough for everybody.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: I keep forgetting, like, oh, yeah, I go to St.

Chris: Louis next weekend.

Chris: The next week is f****** Thanksgiving.

Travis: Wait, is that different from regular Thanksgiving?

Travis: It's f****** Thanksgiving.

Travis: They're still shopping, but it's very different.

Chris: You're stuffing while getting stuffed.

Chris: I don't know.

Chris: Sadly, they just dropped your regular Thanksgiving.

Travis: Alas.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: It'S actually going to Christmas.

Chris: That's nice for people.

Other Chris: Cool.

Chris: Last couple of nights over Christmas.

Travis: They.

Chris: Revamped this little they called Menora Valley at my temple.

Chris: I didn't know there was a Menorah.

Chris: There's a giant menorah out there.

Travis: Because.

Chris: It got kind of covered up on the trees.

Chris: They put it as a memorial or something.

Chris: Reminded of revamping it last year.

Chris: No, in the spring.

Chris: Sorry.

Chris: It was really nice of the outdoor space there.

Chris: They want to be able to do stuff outside in one month for holidays out there.

Chris: I don't usually go to that stuff a lot, but I'm out there.

Chris: That'll be fine.

Chris: We haven't done a minor lighting like.

Travis: That other chris, do you have anything that's good.

Other Chris: Since last time?

Travis: I know.

Other Chris: That it's a Checkmate world tour.

Other Chris: Everybody should go to that.

Other Chris: Good luck now, but miss a lot of dates.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: If you're in Southeast Asia or something, you still have an opportunity.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: And if you're not, just go there.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: Why not go fly to Indonesia or whatever?

Chris: I would love to make money.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: The only sad part, I think sometimes living in the Americas is all the cool places I want to go are really far away, and I don't quite appreciate the cool places that are here because they're not tied into stuff that I live really into.

Other Chris: Yeah, exactly.

Travis: Right.

Chris: Like, if I lived in Europe, it.

Chris: Would still even be easier to go to, like, Indonesia.

Chris: We go to Thailand all the time.

Chris: How expensive it is.

Chris: Which I could go there all the time for each holiday.

Travis: Well, if we have Ryanair, you can go a lot of places for real cheap.

Chris: That is the thing that Europeans are kind of amazed at, that we don't have a Rion Air that goes international.

Chris: We can fly Southwest domestically, but they're not anymore.

Travis: They're not as cheap as Rionaire either.

Chris: We have no Rionaire equivalent that even goes throughout the America here.

Other Chris: When I was at the airport, the lady behind me in line when I was dropping my bag was like, is this line for domestic?

Other Chris: Pretty sure it's all domestic.

Chris: Yeah, pretty sure.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: I don't think any from Lovefield go international.

Travis: Yeah, I could be wrong.

Chris: You might be depending on the airline flying out of there.

Chris: Some of the smaller ones do, but that means they'll go to, like, Cancun or something.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: It's technically international.

Travis: Right.

Chris: That's the thing.

Chris: All the kids in Europe are like, Well, I can go travel to Spain.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Because you can get a Ryan Air flight for, like, £25.

Chris: Like, one way to Berlin or something.

Chris: That's not an option in America.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: I can't even get a flight that.

Chris: Cheap to go to Chicago, man.

Other Chris: So when you get on that plane, is it like Indiana Jones where you're sitting amongst the chickens.

Chris: Standing, like only.

Other Chris: Yeah, you have the handhold, like, on the subway.

Chris: Right.

Chris: You should Google you've seen the standing airline.

Chris: Share things on the internet years ago.

Chris: Ryanair is going to do this, probably, right?

Chris: You just kind of lean your b*** onto a ledge and, like, strap in.

Travis: They'll get you there for cheap, but they might not get your bags with you, and they might not even get your flight off the ground.

Travis: But it'll be more expensive to ask for a refund than it is to just buy a new ticket.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Anyway, I think our cheap spirit, they're getting bought by somebody.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: I'm never fun on them, but they're probably the closest we've gotten to Orion here.

Other Chris: Well, we still have a pilot shortage since we laid off all the pilots.

Travis: Oh, boy.

Chris: Sometimes Delta's pilots are supposed to be going on strike, but I'm not quite sure what I've heard that they have voted to doesn't mean that they will, but they're unhappy in their contract negotiations.

Chris: We're operating on a six year old contract, and now we have a lot different milieu post pandemic to fly for you in head.

Chris: Half the pilots aren't back yet.

Chris: We don't have enough counterstaff or missing, like, baggage handlers like that.

Chris: We're overworked.

Chris: We're not getting paid, but we should be getting paid for all this.

Chris: I get it, guys.

Chris: I feel you.

Chris: Don't f*** up my single.

Chris: Do all that after you.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Wait two weeks, please.

Chris: What they're thinking is the CEO is like, well, it takes a while to get this going.

Chris: There's only trying to avoid that.

Chris: Like during Thanksgiving and Christmas lights, you would think.

Chris: But I'm like, that should be a good impetus in a few to negotiate.

Other Chris: It should be.

Chris: So give these people something they need and want because otherwise you're biggest flying times of the year.

Other Chris: But my profits.

Chris: All told, he's actually a fairly good airline CEO as far as they go.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: He's full trying out, he's doing his job.

Chris: Trying to protect the profits a little bit.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Works for the shareholders first for the labor cost.

Chris: Like, I get what you're doing, but don't put the devil too much there, bud.

Chris: Like, keep your pilots happy because of pilots.

Chris: You don't have an airline of pilots and new pilots because it's expensive to learn to become one.

Travis: Right?

Other Chris: Yeah.

Travis: Long a** time to become a pilot, too.

Travis: Just like take an online training course, right.

Other Chris: They don't have draft correspondence course.

Chris: They basically built the airline industry and the assumption there always be all these pilots out there because they learn how to fly in the military.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: So all their flight training would already be done.

Travis: Right.

Chris: They wouldn't airlines wouldn't have to do it.

Chris: But no, that's not true anymore.

Chris: And okay, you guys are for, like, subsidized flight school.

Chris: It's like 100 grand to learn how to get pilot.

Chris: And then your first few years commercial aviation, you're doing the regional ship, and you only get paid like, 30 grand a year.

Chris: No one's going to do that for four years to get their hours.

Chris: They need to fly the bigger debt to pay more.

Other Chris: Right.

Chris: You guys have to start putting money with the s***.

Chris: I know you don't want to, but that's why they have pilots.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Until the AI can fly it for you, you kind of need the people.

Chris: Even then you slid the people back up.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: It'S fine.

Travis: No, I don't think they do.

Chris: They do.

Chris: They can be programmed wrong and cause.

Travis: Your plane to crash suddenly nosedive.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Anyway, so that's not a thing.

Travis: That's good.

Chris: Sorry.

Chris: It's not good at all.

Travis: I've been playing like two different games.

Travis: One that's old and one that's brand new.

Travis: So I went back and started playing Celeste again on PlayStation.

Travis: Which I don't know if we talked about on a prior episode, but it's like a f****** awesome game.

Other Chris: Oh, yeah, it really is.

Travis: It is.

Travis: You know, if you've never seen it before, you know, a platformer, but like a very intense platformer, like very precise, almost like puzzle level type of platforming.

Travis: The challenge is not only doing the jumps, but figuring out which ones you have to do right and in what order.

Travis: But the thing I really love about the game is the story they put around it is about a girl who decides to climb a mountain to help break herself out of a depression, essentially.

Travis: And the different people she meets along the way, including like an evil version of herself.

Travis: And just the places the story goes from there are not what you expect, like basically super Meat boy but on a mountain.

Travis: And just the metaphor that it makes for self harm and repeating destructive patterns and overcoming obstacles.

Travis: It's a game I did not expect to make me cry, but got there even the second time through.

Travis: But it is really good because it's hard but mostly just challenging through the main story.

Travis: But if you're really into it, it can become like insanely, evilly, challenging, too much extra stuff.

Travis: I felt good when I completed the level dying less than 200 times.

Travis: I'm like yes.

Travis: So that's the old game I'm playing.

Travis: The new one I'm playing is God of War Ragnarok.

Other Chris: Okay?

Travis: And I'm not very far into it yet, but if you played the first game, you kind of know where the story is going.

Travis: And a lot of, especially the early game stuff is like, newly single dad trying to learn how to deal with his son and both of them working through grief, chopping up f****** zombies with a magic axe.

Travis: But like, you do.

Travis: The thing that got me, like, in the first 10 minutes of this game is like, the kid, of course, is older now and like whereas you started the first game trying to teach him how to hunt and him f****** that up is what sets the whole story in motion.

Travis: This time he's like, doing chores on his own and hunting on his own and cleaning up after himself and taking care of the bulls and like, his dad just has a moment where he's like, alright, way to go.

Travis: I didn't expect that to be so touching, but I thought it was.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: So kind of the meme where they're like, video games are great because they let you do stuff you can't do in real life, like have a dad approve of you.

Travis: But I'm really excited for that.

Travis: It's so far so good.

Travis: Like, going back and revisiting the places from the first game, but now it's f****** Dimble winter on the way to Ragnarok and I've already met Thor and Odin who were basically teased as being your main Adversaries at the end of the last one.

Travis: And I appreciate they did like mythologically accurate.

Travis: Thor, like, who's giant and like really fat weird.

Travis: They even made Odin kind of like a mafia boss, which I thought was awesome.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Yeah, so I'm looking forward to more of that.

Other Chris: Yeah, I did start on Elden Ring and I spent like an hour in character creation and then I spent like an hour playing the game and then a f****** giant wolf killed me and I lost like 5000 whatever.

Travis: Yeah, Runes.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: At that point in the game, I hadn't even figured out how to use Runes yet.

Other Chris: So like, what the f***?

Other Chris: I don't know what these are for.

Other Chris: I assume they're for advancement and god d*** it.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Well, yeah.

Travis: Have you met what's her name?

Travis: Melana?

Travis: The lady with the eye at the side of grace.

Travis: She won't tell you how to level up right away, but that's what you use them for.

Other Chris: No, I only saw her in kind of a half dream sequence or something.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: I don't remember when it happens, but it's pretty soon after you get out of that training area.

Travis: If you rest sight of Grace, she'll show up and tell you about it.

Other Chris: Yeah, that did not happen.

Travis: No.

Travis: Well, in the grand scheme of things, 5000 Runes is basically nothing.

Other Chris: But that's what I'm told that I mentioned that to somebody else and they're like, yeah, I'm pretty sure I lost like 125,001 time.

Other Chris: This is also like, early in the game where I feel like it probably matters a lot more.

Travis: Yeah.

Other Chris: Like, maybe I'm just going to f****** start over.

Travis: Yeah, maybe.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: Have you played any other Dark Souls games?

Other Chris: I haven't.

Other Chris: And for exactly this reason that I'm like, this is super frustrating.

Other Chris: I'm going to play for an hour and then I'm not going to touch it for like another week.

Chris: I've watched enough starts about it.

Other Chris: I'll give it another shot.

Other Chris: At some point it'll happen.

Travis: Yeah.

Travis: It's not for everybody because yeah, it is really frustrating sometimes.

Travis: Especially if you happen to do things out of their suggested order.

Other Chris: Right.

Other Chris: I was doing really well, walking around, stabbing people in the back.

Chris: Which is.

Other Chris: My preferred way to play these kind of games.

Travis: Right.

Other Chris: When I played Zelda, the last one.

Other Chris: Or when I played Skyrim.

Other Chris: That was always the way I went in those games.

Other Chris: It's like I'm going to go for range and I'm going to go for stabbing people in the f****** back.

Other Chris: That's how I go.

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: And then when I'm stronger, I'm going to come up with burning.

Travis: There you go.

Travis: Especially in a Dark Souls games.

Travis: Anyway, that works is the right way.

Other Chris: I can see that, boss.

Travis: To fall into a pit of lava.

Travis: They put it in there, it's viable.

Travis: There is no such thing as a cheese strategy, right?

Travis: Yeah.

Chris: Surviving.

Travis: Anyway, good luck and God speed.

Other Chris: Yes.

Travis: But be careful because it gets your hooks in you.

Travis: There's like 150 hours if you're like me.

Travis: Alright.

Travis: Anything else we didn't cover?

Chris: No.

Travis: And yes, I'm excited to see everybody next weekend.

Other Chris: Nice.

Travis: Yes.

Travis: Something fun.

Travis: At least one thing that's fun, right?

Travis: I don't know what that is yet, but we'll figure it out.

Other Chris: We do.

Travis: Okay, that was our session for today.

Travis: And yeah, that's wrap on this season.

Travis: We hope you enjoyed celebrating this double anniversary of book and film with us because we certainly had fun talking about it.

Travis: Just a couple on second thoughts today.

Travis: First is quick and really more semantics than not.

Travis: And it's on my use of the term selfharm in describing one of the themes in Celeste when I really probably should have said self destructive.

Travis: I think the former has implications that don't really apply to the game in this case.

Travis: The other thing, as always, is to say thank you to my co conspirators.

Travis: I feel like I say this all the time, but I love doing this with you all.

Travis: And I'm pumped that I get to spend time with everybody starting today.

Travis: And of course, thanks again to you for joining us.

Travis: Like, for real, this is a big time commitment, even if you're just listening in.

Travis: And I appreciate it so, so much.

Travis: Optional homework this week.

Travis: If you like what you heard, tell a friend about it.

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Travis: Or rate and review us on your favorite podcast server.

Travis: It goes way farther than you might expect.

Travis: Or you could go above and beyond.

Travis: Write a letter to your friend in Transylvania or otherwise tell them all the cool s*** you just heard.

Travis: And I mean write it by hand and seal it with wax and deliver it by carrier pigeon or something and then let us know about that.

Travis: Today's episode secretly had way more sexual activity than we wrote down in our correspondences with big thanks to Chris.

Travis: Chris Ham.

Travis: Chris Other.

Travis: Chris Jacobson.

Travis: Danielle neither.

Travis: Chris Rowe.

Travis: It was edited by me, Travis Rowe, and was sponsored by no one in particular.

Travis: Until next time, keep f****** reading.

Travis: You yeah, hold on.

Travis: Just hold on.

Travis: I'll be right all right?

Danielle: It sounded like you said dad, I heard a call.

Danielle: I was just saying loud plants do the game.

Travis: F****** ghost.