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okay.

Not anymore because we got some fancy LED lights that can connect to wifi and change color.

Well, you know, you still got to worry about immortality with those.

Yeah.

What, But thankfully there's no infants around.

What I don't know about this infant mortality with led lights.

Oh yeah, that's the term for when.

Like do you not know about the bathtub curve?

Okay.

I guess not.

Everyone went to an engineering school.

Mm hmm.

Hello and welcome to our Tfb.

This is Travis and today chris other chris, Danielle and I are talking about Dune.

The new movie, the books, the older movie, facial hair choices, the works.

We'll be covering all the different versions of the story and kind of an inside out order.

So if you've only seen the most recent movie and don't want to spoil the rest of the plot, we're going over that movie first And you'll have a built in escape hatch sort of around 35 minutes in.

So you can miss the discussion of the books and the David Lynch version of the movie.

If you want to learn the story from the new movie series.

If You still need to watch the latest movie, it's streaming on HBO Max until November 21.

So get a move on before it drops off of there for a while.

Or if you're vaccine and boosted imax does seem like the way the film was meant to be seen.

So hit up your local theater.

They have popcorn Also if you wanted to watch the 1984 version of Dune, that's also on HBO Max until I don't know anyway, once you've done the Needful to get yourself comfortable with spoilers, let's get back to my conversation with chris, other chris and Danielle already in progress.

I want to learn.

So things tend to fail either really early or really late.

So like like a light bulb might die after, I don't know, a few weeks and that's that's infant mortality.

But then if it if it survives that period then it'll probably live for a really long time.

Same thing with like uh I don't know, like an engine or something like that.

Just there's some some cars just aren't built well enough.

I got your whatever was thinking of like ceiling fan death like korean fan death for immortality.

Like I thought I was thinking LED is cause like infant seizures or something.

So I mean, you know, we don't know that they don't Yeah, that's true.

I haven't done a study, I don't know what the hell guys and it's like a hamburger.

That's what I can't really fathom being november.

There's christmas lights on our street.

Oh yeah Halloween.

Yeah a lot of people during Halloween had like their christmas lights on in christmas colors but they were still giving out Halloween candy.

So I was very confused.

Simon was yelling at them.

Simon was yelling at them.

I was better listen, I'm all for Halloween but like now it's christmas, sorry christmas is now until the end of the year.

thanksgiving.

Thanksgiving is the one day, sorry, family feed your face.

That's the thing to focus on this month.

My pilgrim ancestors come on, give them their due so many calories to eat before.

I was surprised to see the strip mall complex near my synagogue had all their lights up when I was coming home.

I'm like, oh yeah, I guess they would do that like right after Halloween, wouldn't they?

Are our christmas lights are supposed to go up on Wednesday but it was raining and we haven't gotten a schedule change yet.

So I don't know when they're going up.

Well when I was growing up, they didn't go up until after thanksgiving.

Well ours will go up whenever the people come to put them up because we don't put them up ourselves to too high up.

Yeah, you have to go by someone else's schedule and that's fair.

Plus ours will just throw some lights on our bushes and mom knew how to connect them to the light switch so we could turn them off and on from the inside.

Like, oh man, it is fancy now they like, they like glue the lights around the window with like super glue or not.

Super glue, hot glue.

Hmm that's strange and then they go on roof clips, wifi outlets so we can just turn it on with google, that's pretty cool.

I'm not gonna lie.

It was okay except then sometimes google doesn't listen would have been blown.

That was my favorite part of last christmas that Daniel getting sassy with google, google light them up.

I cannot, I cannot say whether the amazon alternative, which is a little older would do any better.

So well then Travis is like, well I could just like set up certain times for it to go off and automatically like, yeah, let's just do that.

Like why do I have to talk to?

Because then you feel like you live in the future Daniel like google and I already have a love hate relationship.

I'm always yelling at her.

She never understands what I'm trying to say.

It's Danielle.

This is unfortunately one of the people that happens to, I don't know, google not only understands me but understands me when I speak japanese, which is like really weird.

That's yeah, it's just preparing for when the robots take over and kill us off.

I guess coming before you do that, recognizing speaking japanese or anything.

He's got A lot of skills, but not that one I don't think mhm I'm just waiting for the program that actually responds better when it detects your angry, that's daniel's approach where it's like, whoa, okay, sorry, I'll turn on the lights, I'm sorry God, okay Oh, I meant to share things with you guys earlier, but speaking of christmas lights and I didn't, it's good old anti Semitism.

What?

That's some asshole talked about what we're gonna find it.

I screenshot it.

So there's someone called Jacob wool, I don't know who that is but he says I firmly believe that every jew in America should decorate their home with christmas lights, it's called assimilation.

America is a christian country.

No, no.

Yeah.

And my whole response to that thread which is preaching to the choir, I was like yeah you see we have this whole little holiday about not assimilating about this war we had like 2000 years ago where we kick people out because they tried to make us, assimilate.

you know it's called Hanukkah.

So I've heard of this.

Yeah, they tacked on later when the romans were coming down on them hard during the bar karaoke bar rebellion because the romans were like we're gonna like just you can't teach the tour anymore, you can't circumcise your babies, all that kind of ship, we're gonna end this ship and then we're like, oh no, don't worry, this holiday is not about bucking your authority, It's about a lovely little miracle with some oil.

Yeah, that's what it's about, it's not kicking out people trying to change the narrative.

Yeah, got a bit, but that was fun.

I'm like okay, it's nice to know people think that way publicly.

Yeah, there people are awful, humans are legit terrible, this is why the earth is killing us off.

Like actively.

Unfortunately like there's a lot of cool things that pop out of humanity but humans name three, I challenge You to name three.

I mean, did you, you heard about like JFK electricity?

No, it was JFK JR who's the he's been three things for 20 years electricity.

The polio vaccine and the internet.

Just recent stuff.

So that internet is pretty cool.

You know, we couldn't be talking like this without it.

Right?

Yeah.

Good old internet.

Well, just know, just know that all those people that think that JFK JR is coming back, like they all they all get to vote.

Yeah, like they'll they'll still get to vote.

Those crazy people.

Well, here's the problem.

The minute we start restricting votes then they'll do it to us when they get power Are are the reason that we are in this situation the same thing.

Like those people believe in global warming and gravity so they can't vote.

That's right.

The worst thing I think of like war is coming.

I feel I feel a war coming, wow, I hope not.

I don't want to do that.

We need to avoid the jihad.

Just like paul in this book.

Yeah, the terrible purpose, glorious, terrible purpose, yep.

It's going to be trying to steer us away from the super depressing stuff as much as possible, but that was A Good one.

That was a good Okay, good.

I feel good about myself, you know?

Yeah, we're first seeing these possible futures, we've got to do all we can to avoid them, correct.

However, if you do all those efforts might be anyway.

So Daniel said we're on a time limit because she's very tired.

I'm tired.

Okay.

I also didn't know that we were actually recording, but I see now that you've been recording for 10 minutes.

I recorded every minute of every day.

That's right.

No matter where you go, just cut that depressing stuff out.

I usually do, I wasn't ready.

So yeah, because Daniel was like, Dune looks really cool.

We're gonna talk about dune, right?

Yeah, but it was pretty cool.

I wanna kind of step through some different things.

Maybe in the least conversational way to avoid spoiling the whole thing for people who have only seen the new movie.

Okay, if that makes sense to read the books, they should read the book because it was pretty good.

But but I was disappointed that the new movie was like, well that's enough.

Yeah, just stop.

I mean I I was okay with it because it was like yeah, exactly.

Like how are you going to do it in one movie?

And it was a natural like spot to stop I think Is where part one in the book ends makes sense.

So first that's how I knew there was going to be a part to like immediately after it started and it said part one, it's like, well I wonder if there will be more parts Yes, It was not clear that there would be a part two.

Um So I want to get a temperature check so you have not read the book?

You didn't see the 1984 movie?

Thank God just this movie it wasn't it was not I saw like Captain Picard was there too?

I saw I saw a scene you know I just showed her some clips, some highlights to get an idea of what it was like with the mayor of Portland.

Right?

Alright so other chris you said you've read the book like a decade or so ago?

That was a long time ago.

It wasn't, yep.

Yeah I mean it wasn't like I read it uh Yeah probably about a decade ago.

Yeah.

And was it just the first book?

Yeah I only read the first one.

Okay and now you've seen both movies.

Yes.

Regular chris there are no regular, regular.

Yeah.

Yeah I read it like two decades ago.

Ish a little less than we were in college.

And then I've seen I watched the sci fi miniseries when that was out.

Oh yeah in 2000 and I forgot about that until now that has been the best adaptation of Dune.

I'm going to look at it And it was like a three night show.

So when I read the book I'm like oh cool they did do a good job because I already know the story apparently just not all the good details and whatnot.

So.

Okay.

Yeah.

Did you have 84 movie and I don't really want to.

You haven't seen it?

Oh man.

Don't, I don't, I think it's worth seeing discussion.

Should I watch it?

Okay.

I've seen a lot of it in the Queen's ideas channel.

I like because he talks about them all.

So did you read the other books or just the first?

Now?

I've just read watch synopses of them probably.

But I don't know all the details because I like to fall down rabbit holes of the universes that are constructed.

Yeah, but maybe someday I'll read them because I especially want to get the details.

Um some of the later stuff from like Children of Dune, the one right after that.

Like really understand it other than just having the, you know, summaries that I know about them.

Well I've only read the first two now, but I did it the last couple of weeks.

So At least read the 2nd 1 because it's really short comparatively.

I didn't know you pop that one out.

Well like the first one is like 600 pages and giant and then the other one is like, I don't know, pamphlet.

So it only took like a weekend.

So I feel like because he wanted to keep that include that in the book originally, but it's like it's already too big.

The future book.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Okay, so This was like written by Frank Herbert.

Right?

So he was born in 1920 And died in 1986.

So not really that old.

Yeah, born in Washington state.

Also lived in Oregon.

And I read that he was supposed to write some sort of like, I don't know, National Geographic article about the Oregon dunes that he ended up going in way too much detail on.

And so the story was never published but served as kind of a baseline for Iraq.

It's the desert planet.

Yeah, I've read the same thing.

Yeah.

Also um psilocybin was ingested and that was an inspiration for a lot of the rest of doom.

Like that was an inspiration for a lot of things in general.

I think that way the psilocybin was flowing and so he started writing some books but uh about dunes about dunes and sand worms.

But he was married three times like he had a kid with his first wife but divorced after like a year, his second wife died and then he married his publicist for another year or two and then he died.

So Um he lived just about long enough to see the 1984 movie but that happened to come out the same year his second wife died.

So it's a weird year.

I bet.

Yeah.

Ah The book was originally published in two parts Dune World and profit of Dune in some sci fi magazine but when they decided to publish it as a single book, he rewrote a lot of it apparently.

Um I want to say it won the first nebula award for best novel.

It was either the first nebula or first Hugo because it won both of those.

But but you know, not exactly a bestseller on release but did just well enough so you can keep writing full time.

Which I don't know.

It seems to be a theme with a lot of sci fi in this era.

Like yeah, people like it was genre genre fiction is is a ghetto.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The uh the Andes hadn't started coming back from the colonies to consume it yet so it wasn't as in demand.

Um So he wrote what six more dune stories and then died before he could complete the whole series.

So I guess in his writings the there's a couple of plotlines that never really get wrapped up.

Although I guess his son tried to write something to someone technically.

Yes.

I've heard that his son did like a Tolkien son and Put out what was supposed to be like the last two and then he's made a whole bunch of more since then.

But yeah, those aren't always considered Canon factual.

But the two, they were supposed to end it kind of our yeah, I understand.

I don't I'm not sure.

Yeah.

I've asked.

I've surveyed one person, being my mom who has all these books and she said his sons are not as good.

So that's take her word for it.

So I did like The Butler in Jihad, but you know, of course, of course, who wouldn't love the but Larry in Jihad?

I don't know, it's a good, it's an interesting take on it.

So it was referenced in the book, but in passing.

So anyway, new movie.

Right.

Um what did we all think?

It was amazing.

I was just blown away the whole time I was watching it.

I was like this is just this was worth the wait and they better make a fucking second one because I watched it before.

They confirmed that they were well they are but they haven't started filming it yet.

Well, get ready to wait some more.

So I thought that they had started filming it, but they have not.

That was what I didn't even you wanted to get a good enough one because he wanted to just film it like back to back would be done, but they wouldn't let him do that.

So yeah, and then Covid, but Larry and Jihad of its own right.

Yeah.

Um Other chris what did you think?

Yeah, I thought it was really good um Like okay, it honestly did a much better job of capturing it than I thought it would.

Like I I went into it thinking it would be a difficult thing, right, I guess like how do you how do you get the story?

Right.

And I think that was the thing that surprised me about it, was that uh it really did get into all the detail I expected and uh it wasn't a confusing mess.

Right, correct.

Right?

So yeah, thumbs up Daniel, can you comment on the confusing mess?

I thought it was boring as fuck.

But I feel like it will be better in the second one because I think they just set so much up that it was just like as someone who didn't read this book and it was just watching this.

It was just like, oh are they going to do something?

And it was like the last 20 minutes.

I'm like, oh now they're doing something and then it's over there will be more stuff and like way more than because there was not like they kept like I thought she was going to be in it so much and she was hardly in it at all.

But she'll be in it more Yeah, she'll be more in the next one.

She was more than she married it in that part of the story.

There's like, don't worry.

It's like we're gonna get there.

Like yeah, I mean we watched it with Levi and he watched the whole thing too.

And he kept being like, is she ever going to be in it?

Like he was like me.

Like yeah, like where is she?

A lot of people have remarked on that that they for the marketing?

Mm hmm.

And what not that she's not in that much and like, well, but she's a big name.

So I mean I wanted more of her if I'm honest.

Well I like her attitude with the character and I'm looking forward to seeing more of her in part two.

Yeah.

I think she fits pretty well.

Um overall I liked it.

Uh I wanted there to be more of it though.

I'm like, okay, let's go next part.

Come on.

But yeah, to chris your point, I thought they did a really good job of getting enough detail in there that you wouldn't be completely lost without reading the books.

Um Although I do feel like I was explaining a lot, but I don't know if I had to do that or if it's just like, well I know what that means.

So maybe that annoying jerk and tell everybody in the theater like, oh, you see that?

That's because she's been in history.

She can like sense people's emotions and stuff.

She's really perceptive.

Yeah, I do agree.

I think it did well enough with all that.

So that people who don't know doing it all can enjoy the movie enough, you know, because it's like that's my whole thing.

I'm like, I know all of us who have Reddit watch different versions as we're probably going to like it.

Yeah.

You know, but I was concerned I'd like to get another one.

You need people who have never interacted with this stuff to like it too.

And I think they've done that.

So I Think I kept waiting for BB 8 to show up, but he never did.

So that was 19.

There are robots in their universe anymore.

Well, there's like android's though, yep.

Well there's one the I see here's my big problem with the story is I don't know how to pronounce any of this ship.

Like I just memorized the combination of letters like oh that's that thing like the Galaxy or whatever.

People that do something we'll talk about later because it's a spoiler for later books.

But um yeah, I think that's what I liked the most was the way they worked in kind of intuitively the stuff that all these people are sensing in the book and like you only know about because you're partial to their thoughts, like the different hand signals they were giving each other and like um not having them whisper overdub stuff like David lynch decided to do, Oh, I did like the scary mommy voice.

I get like that sometimes I'm like, I can totally relate to this voice because because that happens sometimes when my Children don't listen and I have to yell at them several times and then they get the scary mommy voice, which it sounds like it is not of this world.

And then after that they tend to listen to what I'm saying, so no, I don't.

I mean usually it's not that violent, that would be frowned upon by society, but no, scary mommy voice I I can relate.

Um I also liked what they did with the technology in it because it's not something that they go into a whole lot of detail about in the books so it's left to interpretation.

But I appreciated that looked like stuff people might actually build Even if it was 10,000 years in the future or whatever.

Like Oh the helicopters sort of looked like helicopters but also sort of looked like weird grasshopper things like Dragonflies.

They definitely looked like ornithology.

Tres Yeah the way they were described exactly and I loved the feel of how like how analog all their technology is and like how clunky and mechanical even though it's still better than ours.

Well I mean again it goes it goes back to that whole thing.

Yes.

Yes it does like I know exactly why but I love just how well they pulled it off.

Very real and touchable.

That's what I want to say.

But practical is better.

I think you must have a special tv.

Yeah he has one of those three D.

T.

I could touch nothing.

Yeah.

Um I thought there was they made a really good choice for Duncan Idaho like a character who's supposed to be like everyone's like favorite guy just like, yeah.

Yeah that's just how it although I have to say like he shaved off his beard and like it was just not right like I don't want to look like it was a little weird I think it needed to come back.

Yeah I'm so used to seeing him with a beard.

It was a little odd to see him.

It was so weird.

Like I don't like his chin doesn't look right like because we don't see it usually.

Like I just didn't look like his face.

Like did they C.

G.

I.

This but no no I just prefer him with his with his with his beard.

You know that's actually where I noticed Daniel started checking her phone more often.

Maybe That's what yeah.

Yeah at first I was like who is this guy?

Oh ship what?

Why is he shaved now?

Yeah because they went to a new place he had to look fancy I guess.

Well he had been out in the desert with the Freemans for so long.

He had so he was like I gotta clean up like where was his like suntan for where?

Like he should have had like a big white spot where all that beard was.

I don't know it just it just made me uncomfortable looking at him like observation.

Like like you could have been I like him so much but I do not like him without his.

It doesn't it just doesn't look right.

I feel like he usually doesn't have it off because he didn't have a Really I feel like I've always seen him with one you have since those days at that role.

That was one of his first ones.

So he didn't have yet.

I do love him though.

He's he's a good he's a good actor.

He did have a beard on Stargate Atlantis by then.

So he had upgraded by then.

Yeah.

It's weird having uh I would have appreciated it if he had been uh stilgar.

Like he had just been cal drago for dune like again like I've been ok too.

But no um I liked all the different visual styles I had for the different places.

Although I liked the Empire the most because it was populated by daft punk.

Yeah, Everyone there is that punk.

That's a good way to put it.

Whatever those stormtrooper guys were called.

The sand.

Sand cars.

Sand I literally no, no one's name or what anything was called except for the guy was paul.

And the mama's Jessica.

Yes, that's all I know.

I feel like that was on purpose to be like, do you want to identify with these people and give them you know, easier names to remember the actual name.

Like, like where you had all those but then you have lisa like crazy names mm hmm paul and Jessica though.

I got them no idea what the dad's name was.

Doesn't matter anymore.

It was po po po wanted to be a pilot.

A B b A.

Dyed in the Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was also a good choice and like I like this guy already.

Like I don't need to, you don't have to establish him.

I recognize that I like him.

He's cool.

Which I guess is what they're trying to do in the uh 1984 Version two.

I'm like, oh yeah, I know those guys, they're all cool.

That guy's on quantum leap.

I totally trust him not to betray our family.

But anyway, um I liked when they were arriving on the planet and they are presenting the, you know, the duke's family and leave.

I was like, they still have these when they're playing all these bagpipes.

Like you probably don't remember why, but they do have, they still have them now.

It's true.

They're great for big open spaces.

So I think the fields of Iraq, this would be a good place for it.

I have to hand to levi.

He watched the whole thing and like he paid more attention than I did.

So that props to him well and right afterward he's like, okay, I'm gonna read the book now like all right, good luck.

Then he said, dad, you're gonna read me this book now for my bedtime story.

And I said, no, no, I just read it.

I don't think so.

Like that's hard to read out loud.

You just read it.

I don't know why you do voices.

Like just read it.

They can imagine voices themselves don't do that for Simon but sometimes they don't prompt who is speaking and then that becomes confusing levi also told us that there apparently doomed skins in Fortnite of course you can still suit.

Like that's something I could have gone without.

It doesn't impact me whatsoever.

Well maybe that's why he was so interested in watching it.

Who knows?

Like it's like I've seen this before, I have never played Fortnite.

We did have movie theater popcorn as we were watching it.

So I think that helps us all stay put because the popcorn was there.

Uh huh.

Um And I also like the like the very end when sunday is like this is only the beginning audience wink.

It's like like wow you took a long time getting there but okay, I'm ready for the next let's see what happens.

So I wish it was like in the movies.

I feel like it had been way better in the imax format like they intended it to.

Yeah, I agree.

But I could also have appreciated as a tv show tv show like do a full season if you're gonna spend all this time and then have more at the same time so I can watch the whole part.

But I do feel like they should because you think there'll be more than a part two, there will probably be more right because there's more books.

Yeah, that's what I was going to ask, what do you think they're gonna, how they're going to divide it up because it's because if they do but I don't know if they do more than two, they should have done that.

They should have filmed the two so that they could have been like here's one, here's two and then they could have taken their time to film the rest.

Yeah.

I think they need to make more of them just to kind of help people realize that the first book was not the point of the series, like it was not telling you what you think you're hearing with it.

You know?

There's I mean we've all talked about before, there are specific themes that frank Herbert had in mind for this spread out over time story to teach us in an entertaining way, lessons about humans and how we operate politically and stuff like that.

And since a lot of people only ever watch or read oon stuff like that, they miss out on it and you know they don't even finish the paul Tracey's story to learn what happened to him.

So that's why I think I could see them doing three like the second one could wrap up the first book and the third one could do dune messiah and close it out.

And I think that'd be a pretty good trilogy, just kind of complete his arc.

But um but either way they need they should have started you risk people losing interest and like forgetting if it's not even like started filming About what two years, something like that too long.

Also like like they're gonna get like old.

That's a pretty standard time in between a lot of movies in two years.

But yeah, I mean who's, who's going to get old.

Like they're already adults In their 20s.

They are.

But like they're going to get like older.

But what, how do you say that guys named timothy?

He's already like 26 or something.

He's not gonna get older.

It's not like the harry potter.

Yeah.

He doesn't have a puberty to go Through.

You already did that.

I mean, I would totally agree that if it's gonna take them like 10 years to make it, but like they've already got it all planned out as long as they can get their ship booked essentially.

Like they'll start filming it like probably in the spring and you know, get that, get that filming done next year and then spend the following time editing and whatnot.

So yeah, I assume that they had the actors they needed on, on uh what's yeah, I'm sure they probably, and I think everyone wants to make this next movie.

So it'll be like, cool, let me know when you show up, you know?

So probably so the nice thing is they can like film all their desert scenes if they want live on a closed environment set or whatever the funk they do now with Covid to film.

So yeah, they just all vaccines and stuff.

So I mean the pandemic is over though, right?

Like that's what everyone seems to be acting like.

So let's just go.

I guess it's no, it's fine because what you can hide their masks and they're still suit mask.

That's right.

Just having where there's still suits around set all the time.

They'll be fine, pump the hand sanitizer through their little nose tubes.

Like I like the little nose tubes.

But they didn't have them in like any of those pictures.

They should have had it in like the, the movie poster because she literally was wearing her like nose tube the whole time.

They wanted people to see the whole face I guess.

You know, I don't want to cover up Sandy's face.

You're going to the movies.

She's beautiful.

Anyway.

Yeah.

She's there to help you kill that guy.

Yeah.

Leave.

I kept being like, what is mary jane going to be in this when mJ going to be in this?

She's a good mg.

I'll give her that.

She's a good everything.

I like her a lot because I like her in euphoria as well.

That was a good show.

That doesn't seem like my thing.

But I bet she's good in it.

She is.

She's very good in that.

I saw part of an episode of that and it didn't seem like I was going to enjoy it very much.

I mean you have to watch the whole series.

Like the whole season really.

It's not every not every part of every episode feels great.

No, but at all.

So okay, felt pretty bad.

Um mm hmm.

I want to shift over to the book.

But any other thoughts about the movie?

Just that I need to watch it again And yeah, maybe we'll talk about it and talk about the book.

I can't remember.

I was only thrown off a little bit by having like languages for the different planets, different groups.

And like, I guess just the nobles all speak like a common language too.

Mm hmm.

Because I'm like, it's far enough in the future, everyone can have their own languages, but I just didn't really expect to hear it and see it, but it was pretty cool too.

Yeah.

Sorry to car have there were languages, a Harkonnen one, all that kind of stuff to of course there's fremen like they speak their own.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's for me.

I was like, why do all these other people have a funny language?

Why wouldn't they?

I guess.

And then the nobles, that would make sense.

Yeah.

They're all part of the lambs red and all that ship.

So they have a common language that they speak to each other.

So I don't really remember them saying they had a common one, but it felt like every single person like different planet, different like job had their own secret language.

But in the book, we just all understood it like as much as we needed to.

So Right.

Um, daniel.

Anything else to say on the movie?

Um I liked paul's freckles.

Those were precious.

Uh they were, wait, where do I know?

Where am I supposed to know?

Timothy from?

Um he's been in, he was in something, He was nominated for an Academy award.

Like call me by your name or something I think is what's called.

But I didn't see that.

But he was also in the remake of Little Women that I watched.

He was he was the one I don't want Lori I think is his name.

He was no, he was he was Lori.

Um I mean he's been around things that get recognized, recognized the name, but I don't recognize him very well.

He's um, he's a good actor.

He was good, yep.

Okay, so the book, right?

It was written in 1965.

So um so I mean there's a lot to cover in the book and I don't want to do that thing, but I do want to say like this is like exactly my kind of sci fi and so I read it very quickly, but I guess this means I'm a big fan of soft sci fi where they're just like, you know, we'll tell you enough, but you don't need to know how any of the ship works.

Just they inhale the spice and that takes care of things.

It's fine.

Yeah, that's just like a drug that's basically just having drugs?

It's worm poop.

I liked the, it reminded me of the zombies ate my neighbors game.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about from Sega and that I mean we, I had had so many levels and like I never got past that sand were born because it was so hard.

Like never, never passed it.

I don't know.

It was like way up there in numbers what the level was and just reminded me of my childhood.

You couldn't have been a friend man because you couldn't ride the sand worm.

Sorry.

Sorry.

Uh yeah.

I think probably my favorite thing in the book was just all the different like groups of people and how they are all hypersensitive in their own way.

Like the the men tats were like human computers because they don't really have computers.

Right?

Jessica's group.

The then they just share it who are so attentive to like attitudes and details that they can basically read minds.

Mm hmm.

I can do other things and do other stuff.

Like convince you to stab your friend on your like.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I, I really bought into that.

And even in the second book when you start getting into like face dancers and stuff, I'm like, okay, this is pretty cool.

I'm into it.

So, um, I wanted to talk about some of the main themes in there and whether you thought they were really effective Because I think like the main thing seems to be about the power of false prophecy and the basically paul and Jessica using that to their advantage throughout the whole series.

The whole book, is it false though?

And that's been the goal of an organization for like thousands of years.

Like this is where that was going.

So it's all been engineered to be that way.

So does that make it false or not?

Like, I don't, I don't know, I don't know if rightward but like they, it was not so much false as they're like, well we'll just start telling this story and eventually whenever someone fits it, they can take advantage of like thousands of years ago in your culture and it will become this like really important thing for you because you're gonna, we've decided you're going to play this role in the future, helping make this come true.

I guess it felt more false to me because there were several parts where they'd be like, hey, do you know, you know this is the secret thing you're supposed to say and just like uh yes, oh God, oh I had that written down in my other pants pocket, left it on the other planet.

Shit.

I mean, yeah, that is part of it type of deal and like it all just plays into the, I think the main lessons of the paul's story, like, you know, which is why I also get upset with people when they come in going, oh it's a white savior tail.

It's not, you need to read the other books.

I don't know if I'd call him a savior.

Exactly.

That's exactly how you should say it to like, I don't know.

He's not really a savior.

I mean he saved himself pretty well, but well, I mean he does change the fate of the freemen and brings greater freedom and renowned, but it's kind of like at what cost to Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh yeah.

So with all these different people in the book that are, you know, functionally psychic, like I thought a mechanic that was in the book that kind of let the reader in on that too was like, they started each chapter with an excerpt from a history book that hasn't been written yet.

And they're like, oh man, that doctor you a what has shifted.

Yeah.

Like I think something's up with this doctor, you don't trust him, right?

It didn't end well for him.

No, no, really didn't.

You shouldn't have trusted those Harkens to play by the rules.

But when they got your wife, like you've got to try to save her, but still should have seen it coming.

Like they're not gonna honor their word.

Dude, they're Harkonnen is like, yeah, Yeah, uh, something they made a big point of in the book and in the 84 movie is his like imperial training.

Mm hmm.

Does that, do you notice that come back and play ever again.

Is that just like a thing?

He's like, yeah, you know, he shouldn't be able to be manipulated.

But yeah, he was remember, I think it's just more pointing out that jesus is supposed to be incorruptible and there's this training to ensure that and it didn't work in this case.

That's a big, so that's a big deal.

You know, type of thing like this is so unusual that it wouldn't, it shouldn't happen.

But yet it did, yep.

Um but that makes them trustworthy to like Pentax and whatnot to so that they can work and all the different houses and stuff in there generally okay and safe as like a class, like a semi guild, like they're okay too operate because because of their trainings background and all that stuff.

Right?

So yeah, not only did those little excerpts make me feel sick because I'm like, yep, this is what's gonna happen.

But also like there's it sort of leads you astray too because like most of them are written by Princess Cerulean or whatever her name is, right?

And then she's not even in the book until the very end, like oh there she is.

And she's like, oh, I hate this.

I hate this guy.

He's the worst.

Like I don't want that.

I hate him.

So you thought this was like her his ally the whole time telling a tale of again the white savior.

But but it's not, it doesn't really apply either because it's it's it's 20,000 years in the future, like none of our ship, it really applies to them anymore.

They're just repeating patterns of old and something that is more apparent in the book than either the movies is the way that he's kind of mixing all the different religions and cultures into a single pot.

Like to talk about, you know, the jihads and the Hajj, but they have to go on and he's got bibles and whatnot.

So quoting christian apostles and stuff, yep, he didn't didn't, I don't think he even mentioned that Earth had been a place until the second book.

So yeah, that is like, it's like foundation to like you get so far in the future, like people forget about Earth, it becomes like a myth.

Like sure there there was an old earth, we don't know it's, we don't know where it is or like in in Dune, they, you can find that out like in foundation, they never really figured out where Earth was until like later, but like they didn't know like, oh well just, we came from the place that like that we don't know where it is or stuff like that, you know?

So which is interesting to me because of how of course wrapped up we are on our own planet as we should be, but to think of a time where like people will not know where Earth is, well, I mean they would be wrapped up in their planet.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

And if you think about the fact that there probably isn't faster than light travel, Like it's gonna take like 10,000 years to get anywhere.

And it's gonna take like at least five years to talk to anybody, right?

So like it doesn't, I don't know anyway in real life, it's going to be, uh, it's gonna be very different.

Yeah.

You would have to very much be on your own.

Yeah.

And just be like where we came from here and every now and then we talked to people, but this is it, This is our home.

Um, I think chris, like you were saying people misinterpreting the idea of the white savior.

Like do you think this book has the issue where they make their anti hero like too cool for the message to really stick.

Yeah, maybe I'm thinking of like, you know, fight clubs like, oh man Tyler Durden is so cool like.

No, he's insane.

Like he is a terrorist.

A terrorist.

Yeah.

Mm hmm.

Yeah.

I think some of that happens, especially with in doon doon just alone.

Like people could definitely like, oh look, he gets all these your superpowers and can do all this cool ship and that's good.

Yeah, exactly.

No, but, and they don't go, they don't finish.

So yeah.

Um, I'll be interested to see how they covered like paul's sister.

Oh yeah, who was she was not born yet.

Yeah, she was in Jessica's belly, but he knew because, you know, his training a child born with like all the experiences of all the many different mothers immediately when she's born.

Like that's gonna be interesting.

It's gonna be I'll be also interested to see how much they get into the drug use and how they depict that.

Like, because it seems like from here on in, paul spends a lot of time like completely out of his, out of his mind on spice.

Well, it's everywhere in the environment is going to be in like, you can't not basically be ingesting spice all the time.

And he's yeah, it's gonna be he's gonna have some fun trips there.

Yeah.

And speaking of trips, so the david lynch movie, right, fucking bonkers.

Yes, absolutely.

But not in any way that felt invalid.

I'm like, okay, well, I guess you didn't need to make the navigators, you know, whale monster guys.

But he sure did.

Right?

Talking vagina mouths like, okay, I like the shields they put on.

Oh yeah, the shield like a like a box.

Yeah prisms.

Somebody described those as like roadblocks.

I like look at that high tech.

Yeah, yeah.

Like if anyone got the idea of like the drug trip down.

That was it.

Like, yep.

But again, like it felt like the never ending story visually visually.

But uh I really, really liked it.

Like it's just that insane that you're like all right, okay.

I took the book the opposite way.

Yeah, like who cares what the helicopter, it looks like it's a sucking Duplo, we're gonna fly through a space straw.

It'll be great.

Uh I don't, I didn't go back and check, but I felt like he added a lot of some things in there.

Like he pulled some stuff for later books but also made up some things like vocal guns that if you say paul's name, it kills people.

Like my name is a killing word.

No, that was that was a thing.

Right?

I don't recall.

Yeah, that was that was uh that was the weirding way.

Oh, what was that part of like the the voice or I think it's a separate thing, separate, separate.

I remember the is pretty fine in the new movie.

Yeah, I remember them mentioning her saying that will teach you how I fight.

But yeah, I don't remember him being like, you'll just be like, and people blow the funk up like, well they had they had like some kind of a device to you I guess that like went along with it thing with that one that people talk about is changing that to try to make it a little more understandable for the audience.

I don't know whenever they do it for the new series because is that what You mean in the 84 movie?

But they made it that way to make it make more sense.

Well, and I also kind of appreciate the way he's like, well I'm gonna take the time to build it up and then it's over, He meets the Freeman and it all works out the end.

Uh like naked sting.

Why?

I didn't see that.

I mean he wasn't all the way naked, but like just okay.

Go for it.

Uh huh The baron like as harry potter's aunt.

Why?

Like just this blimp guy who flies around, like they talked about him having like some sort of suspension units in the book because he was so fat but did not picture him like zipping, zipping around like, yeah.

Or like post filled face like murder raping boys.

Yeah, I forgot about that part and then showering off in oil because that's what you do when you murder rape people like God, weird.

But in a way like the whispered internals were distracting but also like, okay.

Very religion.

Yeah.

I'm going to tell you exactly what I'm thinking about whispering it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh huh.

But it should be noted that Kyle MacLachlan has always looked that way to this day.

He looks exactly like that.

Yeah.

Even in a room with people who are definitely like 30 or 40 years older than he seemed like the oldest guy.

Like it's like towering over everyone else in the scene.

Like it's supposed to be your child.

Like you're do clip, but okay.

It's fine.

Um Yeah, I feel like I would probably, I'd probably watch that two or three times before I watched this new one again just because there's a new bit of insanity you can appreciate every time.

Oh yeah.

Something you missed.

Anyway.

Uh so, uh, so I wanted to ask like, so if you liked this movie, the new movie, what else do you, would you recommend people seek out as like something in a similar vein?

Any recommendations?

Mm hmm.

I'll let you think so.

I actually don't have any.

But the Hunger Games.

Is that right?

Like what's popping in my mind?

At least for like sweeping visuals.

Is that tom Cruise, was it Oblivion?

I think so.

It's a weird story, but I've always liked it.

Yeah.

So at least for part part of a similar ish feel for some of it because that one has a lot of like interesting little flying vehicle.

Yeah.

And like said big sweeping vistas and kind of different feel to it.

Ah so Oblivion.

Yeah.

For sci fi visuals and stuff.

Yeah, people can check that out.

The story can be a little lackluster sometimes for some folks, but it's worth a shot.

It's worth a watch.

Fair other chris you were about to say something.

Uh hmm.

I don't know in terms of like movies because I feel like this one is, I mean, I, I feel like Dune is pretty singular.

I guess.

Like it's, it's pretty unique even in terms of sci fi.

Um and but there was probably I'm sure I talked about it on this before, but there is a book called nine Fox gambit that was like very far future and very uh exotic kind of weapons that don't make any sense.

Like like they operate on some kind of technology that you can't even fathom and they do things that like warp reality and somehow somehow it's all based on the calendar and like I've never been able to understand this.

Like you have, you have like uh heretics who are trying to set up a new calendar and like the calendar where people are following it like, like sets up like a different space where like all of a sudden the weapons for the people that are using this other calendar don't work right?

Like ah it's it's really bizarre.

Um and really cool.

And it's also incredibly violent because because some of these some of these weapons, the things they do like pretty pretty fucking awful.

Yeah.

But and there was also, I I would also mention revelation space by Alastair Reynolds.

That would be a good one to check out to like just another like far future.

That one's a little bit more like sort of, I feel like more realistic in terms of how the future might be with like how people transit between planets and sort of no, like I don't know the sorts of people that you might find in space I guess.

But then you have also like some really weird sort of ancient spacefaring civilization type things happening to and some some intrigue around that.

I like intrigue.

Yeah.

Cool.

Um Daniel.

So what did you think this movie was gonna be like?

And what, what movie did you would you rather have watched?

I have no idea what I just, it looked really cool.

It looks kind of like, I don't know, I don't even know what it looks like.

I know I watched the trailer and I'm like, wow, that looks fun and then just was kind of boring.

So I don't know, I would watch Free Guy again.

I would watch that again.

Oh yeah, that's a good one.

I like, I like the, I like the new star treks with, with the chris pine.

So I mean, I don't roll too deep in sci fi so I don't have a lot of that catalog to recommend.

Although I got the same kind of feeling reading through dune as I did when I was reading through game of Thrones, which is fantasy but the same kind of like world building, right?

Different boring classes and stuff and complex stuff.

And I mean, I don't know, I felt like there was some ancestry in Game of Thrones from Doom, like you know the murdered patriarch and spanish prince slash princess going to live with, you know, a tribe in the desert.

Yeah.

And I mean if you think about it like George RR martin is also a sci fi author first of all, and you think about like the world of Game of Thrones.

It's not Earth, It's some other place that has some other weird eccentric orbit or something.

So like, so like he's he's clearly thought about like, you know, some situation where people have gone to another planet or something and then have been isolated.

Like they don't have the technology that they had when they showed up there or something.

You could really think about it that way.

Yeah.

But if I was going to recommend a movie that mixes like bonkers, sci fi stuff of the 84 movie with uh, at least an attempt at modernists of this one, I'm going to recommend Lost in Space with matt Leblanc.

If you haven't seen it, it's bonkers, but it's also kind of fun, like nowhere near as deep obviously, but, or I don't know, event horizon, whatever.

Give your yourself trauma instead.

Yeah.

Oh, you know what actually, um, I don't know if you really want something, something weird.

Something trippy.

You could watch Solaris.

Oh, yeah, is that good?

I enjoyed it.

It's it's it's not it's it's not an action packed movie.

It's definitely more of a cerebral thing.

Um, Is this the original or the George Clooney 1?

I was talking about the George Clooney one, but either one works.

Um, but basically, like you have a, I don't know, like some people in orbit around kind of a like a living planet I guess.

Okay.

That is working with them telepathically.

Yeah, That's weird.

You know?

Yeah.

So that's that's basically what's going on.

Uh Yeah, that's fair.

Mm hmm.

Sounds intriguing.

That's all you need to know.

Go watch it.

Yeah.

And, and gravity and George Clooney again.

Yeah.

And then grab that too much to bring it back to Earth.

Yeah.

Actually, if you can skip gravity, not worth it.

Too long.

Too long.

Too implausible.

Or passengers.

Right.

Honey, I like passengers.

It's fun.

All right.

So I feel like we have two strong recommendations for the movie.

One.

Not recommended, but hopeful for the future.

I recommend all of it.

Movie.

If you like this movie, go read the book so we'll be ready and then you can be annoying.

Like me in your theater.

It's like, that's right anywhere.

Um, do you guys have anything else?

That's good?

I mean, people can always read the Foundation trilogy.

Yeah.

Have you watched some of that show?

No, no, I hear I hear that's good.

The Apple do not have the Apple.

I'm gonna have to get it.

They keep, I keep getting ads for like all these great movies and shows they have on like you need to watch that foundation show too.

So yeah, I like foundation Foundation and you probably like for all mankind to that's on Apple.

Yeah, I'd probably like that, that space.

Yeah, I've heard it's, it's entertaining so yeah, it's really good.

I haven't watched it but so foundation is what you're saying.

Okay foundation, it's a good read and there might be a good watch.

I don't know, is it just one book or is it a series?

Three books?

Well it's three original ones and then he wrote some more before he died.

But I would just read the original trilogy to begin with and then if you want to read really the foundation and the newer stuff later you can.

Mhm.

But does the trilogy?

Original trilogy is more iconic, more well known, especially for 50s sci fi and it's set up a lot of things including the uh huh Like Capital Planet that's covered in the city so stuff like that.

There was salsa it out and foundation.

What are you giggling about the internet?

Okay, Daniel recommends it will make you cry and make you laugh.

Internet.

Mhm.

Uh Yeah, I don't really, I don't really have anything I bought, I bought Metroid dread and it's on my table.

Cool.

That's first step.

I've been looking at it awesome.

It looks neat Like I said 1st step.

Good 1st step.

Yeah, I like a Metroid every now and then.

Yeah, I even liked other m Oh really?

Not as much as not as much as some of them but I was fine.

I like pointing my controller at the tv to aim.

Yeah, that was neat.

I'm impressed by simple things.

Yeah.

Mhm.

Uh Daniel.

Do you have anything else?

That's good.

Apparently the house passed the infrastructure bill just now just now so that will go to Biden's desk and get signed.

They still haven't done the build back better one though.

And like I don't know what's gonna happen with that because you know we've got some idiots that it will probably not get passed because this is America.

Yeah but we don't do things that help the normal people but we don't even really do things anymore.

I want to do the hunger games but like with our politicians like let's go that would be very entertaining for me.

Put Lauren Baber it against somebody.

Just put her against herself.

She's that dumb.

She'll just like shoot herself.

But what about the appointment that we have on sunday?

Yes.

Our our Children get vaccinated on sunday.

Finally, finally We didn't have to pretend they were 12 know that they get to get their actual dose for their actual age at an actual Walgreens.

Wonderful.

They're gonna appreciate it too.

And what what I love is that as you're making all these appointments like all these slots are filling up like it's like it's like filled up through like over a week now so like people are actually vaccinating their Children here in texas where we don't believe in science or medicine and Covid doesn't exist so I mean it's kind of reassuring but like not not enough to make me want to continue to stay here long term.

Sorry.

Oh man, my governor is actively trying to kill me.

I mean, we're getting cold and like have we done anything about the electric grid, nope?

So that would be fun.

It'll be fun.

Freedom in texas.

No, but also no abortions.

Uh no working electrical grid.

But yes, you can carry a gun.

It doesn't matter if like you shouldn't, you can just have it.

Freedom.

Freedom.

Freedom spelled F R E D U M B free.

That's what happens when you keep.

I'm not even sorry.

Mm hmm.

She'd say it to your face too.

Don't worry.

So, I was also also talking to talk about a video game I was playing uh Ori and the will of the wisps.

Okay.

Which is pretty cool.

It's kind of like a metroid Vania in the vein of like Hollow Knight except more Prince of Persia.

E than like 50 stab e.

So it's pretty neat.

It's the general idea of, you know, like searching through the forest and helping restore itself, just like with kenna.

Mhm.

But it's also got these parts that are, I don't know if it's I'm very bad, probably that or just like very poor design, but that I died probably 100 times trying to just get through the environment like, like there's a okay, so there's a part where you going through a cave and it's dark and if you get too far into the darkness you just die.

So you have to go by these little lamps and then I'll give you a little bit of light for a minute until you get to the next lamp.

Okay.

But even if you still have time if you get too far away you're just dead anyway.

Like there's invisible instant death walls and I probably spent an hour trying to get through that fucking section I'm looking and I was sleeping better option.

I'm gonna choose to say that's good game design because despite being like this fucking games I kept playing it and got through it.

So yeah so it can't be like I'll do it sometimes but other times they're like funk this ship and put it down but it's pretty cool.

Yeah if you liked any of those other games I mentioned it's worth it.

It's progressing much quicker than a usual Metroid Vania like I'm getting new moves all the time so I like that too.

Um I also got persona five and started that.

Hey I heard it's really good.

Yeah I have it.

I didn't play it much.

I should do that.

And I played it before what they did the rerelease so I don't I don't know the extra story part but I've been through it once.

Yeah I have personified from like four years ago.

Nice.

Well it was it was in the playstation plus free games so I'm like all right okay give it a try.

That's pretty cool.

Um And then I looked it up and learned.

It's in 100 hour game, like.

Oh so it's really good though.

Yeah, I'll be playing it for like months, months and months.

Yeah, I'm also interested to see like I guess you have a limited amount of time in game to do it, yep.

I don't like that idea.

I need to be able to grind for the 100 like dozens of hours at the end.

Well, I mean, you can you can grind I guess like like the issue is that um uh like like you have to you have to kind of manage your resources and your time I guess.

Like so let's let's say that like I can't do that in real life.

And there's there's also so so let me let me get into this.

Why this is so complicated.

All right?

So, so you have a bunch of different stuff that you can do, right?

Like there's uh like part time jobs for making money and you have like you can go into the dungeon and fight stuff, right?

Um You can you can like do homework or some stupid thing, like watch a movie or read or whatever.

Um You can you can go eat food.

Uh You can you can spend time with the people in your party, right?

And that's like little story events that kind of move their relationship along.

Um But like, you know, certain certain like relationship advancing things are only available on certain at certain times and in certain places on certain days of the week or something, you know?

And then um like you can, if you, if you go into the dungeon like say after school one day, um you can stay in there as long as you want, but like, you have to remember that you have like a limit on like healing items and you're like magic points or whatever they call them in the game.

So like, you're not going to be able to stay there forever necessarily, but like, so it you end up having to find this like this balance between doing all of these different things.

Oh yeah, that's gonna be tough.

It is, it's, I mean, you can, you can just wing it, you know, like, like it's not gonna be optimal.

You're not going to get to the end of like, you just, you just have to prioritize like whose story, I guess do you want to actually see?

And like, who's who's important to you, I guess?

And Yeah, fair enough.

But but you can also like heavily optimize everything and see like every part of the game, pretty much going through.

Okay.

What if I just watch a movie the whole time, all of my my time to just watch movies?

Probably not.

I mean, there wouldn't be a point.

Like you you get, I want to say when you do stuff like that.

Like you, you get certain bonuses, certain, uh, like skill advancements kind of okay.

But like there wouldn't be a point to doing it beyond like you can't get the same skill advancement again or something.

There's, there's only so many.

Yeah.

Well, it looks cool.

I'll be interested to see how that that works out for me.

I'm thinking back to like how I play like final fantasy tactics where I get to the first Battle and I leveled my guys up to 99 then.

Um, so this could be bad for me.

Yeah, I mean, if you just like, like honestly, like you can just play it on easy and you will, you will never have to grind.

Like you'll never have to do anything.

Yeah, good call Easy mode is for people with jobs.

Yeah, That's how I started the witcher three.

But, but I also like I did eventually get everybody to level 99 like everybody.

So does it have a new game plus or you just, you just optimize your time that well, yeah, it does have a new game plus.

Okay.

Yeah.

Maybe won't panic so much, but cool.

Yeah.

All right.

Um, I have one more good thing I read.

I read this is speculation because it hasn't been confirmed that that chris Evans is going to be 2021 sexiest man alive on people magazine, which I fully approve of.

You need the confirmation to know you thought he was sexy.

Well I know, but like everybody needs to know everyone else to know.

We will know for sure on Tuesday, but I do look forward to that.

Oh yeah, I heard about that.

He's not only sexy in that, like he's obviously a good looking dude, but like he's got a good heart and he's smart and a dog.

He's got a wonderful dog.

Like the whole fucking package one time you dated jenny slate.

Oh and they were so sweet together.

I know.

Oh well I love him.

She missed out baby.

She has a she has a baby with somebody else now.

So she's probably already know, but she's fine.

She's good.

She could have been their baby.

Could have been the dune messiah, which the specific name I'm forgetting now quist that's had Iraq or whatever anyway, but I thought that we should end to end on a high.

Yeah.

So just remember chris Evans is a damn fine, Especially in 2021, but also in every other year potentially right?

Winning awards for being good looking, but we already discussed it.

It's not just the looks.

No.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but probably not for the magazine award.

No, but I bet they talk about it about it.

He has a, he has, I don't know if you call it a company but he does this thing called a starting point that is into like politics and it talks about different like bills and government stuff and like talks to different members of both parties and like trying to get people more involved and educated on the government.

Like it's a really good program.

He'll be, I think he's going to get into government someday.

His uncle was, he used to be something for somewhere, but he's not anymore.

He, I think he was in massachusetts.

I'm not really sure he had a very italian sounding name.

Mm hmm.

But he really likes politics.

So I think he'll get involved because he's actually a smart dude.

He also really likes science.

Always post sci fi stuff plus like he can move me on there.

So like, you know, he's a good dude.

Yeah.

Like he's worthy.

We all know he's worthy and he can wear the hell out of a cable knit sweater.

Yeah.

These are, these are all his good qualities.

I could talk about him all night.

It's all like he was his best role today.

Not another teen movie.

No, his best role.

His best role honestly is in the movie gifted in which he starred with jenny slate, which is where I think the relationship started.

Like he was really good in that.

If you haven't watched it, you should watch it.

It's good.

The best role to date scott pilgrim scott said that is actually hilarious.

I do like him and scott pilgrim Anyway.

That's all, that's all I got for real.

That's all Daniel's gonna go look at her phone in the bathroom now that looks like a picture.

Actually I'm going to go, I'm going to go to sleep now because as I said that you had an hour and it's gone well over that so I guess you're right.

It's true.

Alright bye Anyway.

Peace out, bye.

Alright, alright bye yep Okay that was our session for today, your homework this time and find us online and let us know what you thought of doing any of the versions were the prophecies about paul false if he and his mom forced them to become true was lynch's bonkers version of the movie.

The right direction for the story.

Is it worth reading the rest of the books in the series?

That should Jason Momoa be allowed to shave his beard.

We're on the tweets and the facebook, although maybe lean towards twitter because Zuckerberg is the worst.

We're at pod are Tfb over there.

So as I was amassing my on second thoughts for this episode, I realized I had another reviewer available to comment on the movie and he was living right under my own damn roof.

So I called him in to share his reactions as well and here's what he had to say.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay.

Hey, so you saw, you saw Dune right, What did you think?

It's kind of boring, kind of boring.

There's too much talking too much talking but I like the action scenes.

What was your favorite part In the last like 20 minutes when they were on that dude was fighting the other dude from like the pack.

He's like I didn't want to the main guy, paul was finally other guy from the Freemans.

Yeah.

And like the girl gave him the knife.

Yeah.

When MJ gave him a knife.

What was your least favorite part?

All the talking.

I mean really?

Really?

I like the beginning.

I feel like was a little bit boring because like Yeah, kind of didn't get right into it.

You know, it took too long.

Alright.

You still think you're going to read it?

Yeah, I'm probably going to start read it, but I don't know when I'm going to start reading it.

Well, no rush.

Mhm.

You said they had doomed skins in Fortnite.

Yes, they do.

Do you have?

Do you have one?

No, but I can buy one.

Yeah.

Are people using it use it or?

No, no, no.

Some people I've seen a couple of people using it, but it's not a sweat skin.

All right.

It wasn't the biggest collaboration they've done.

Would you recommend this movie to your friends?

Yeah, Just be aware.

It's boring, desperate where some parts of it get really boring, But you want to watch to the end.

It's really good.

Okay, So, it's worth it at the end.

All right.

So, one thing we also do is we do What else is good?

So tell me about Team CS.

Okay, so Team See is this organization, is this organization being run by Mr Beast and Mark rober on Youtube.

Now, wait a minute.

Who is Mr Beast.

Mr Beast is this is one of the biggest Youtubers who does these challenges with his friends and he does some pretty questionable things with his money because yes, he gives away a lot of money.

He does these challenges and he lets you subscribe and do it.

Um Yeah, he he's not in some of these videos.

He's not earning back the money he's giving away.

He's giving away like 20 grand at least once in this video.

So team sees it is um what Mark Rober and MrBs are doing and they're collaborating and they are cleaning up the sea.

They're trying to get $30 million.

They right now have $12 million dollars raised at the moment.

And basically every dollar that you donate, that's £1 of trash taken out of the ocean.

And what they've done is they've made this big video and all these other Youtubers are like spreading it.

Probably donate to it.

Okay, so you did like your own little challenge to raise money for it, right?

Yeah.

What did you do?

I um took Fortnite and every kill I got I um with a harpoon gun.

Um I would donate $1 and I ended up donating?

$5.

Yeah, Yeah.

So tell you what I'm gonna do, you already gave me $5 to donate.

Boom make it 50.

I'm gonna put it here in your name.

Oh thanks dad.

Alright thanks bye bye.

Alright thanks levi for your input.

Everyone.

Go check on hashtag team sees and help clean up the ocean.

Also.

What the hell?

Throwing a shout out to hashtag Seaquest return.

Since we're talking about the C helped fuel a fan demand for more episodes of Seaquest dsV and last but not least rest in peace to the original doctor.

You a Dean Stockwell.

A sci fi icon for sure.

Yeah.

Today's episode was compelled to be recorded by a scary mom voice with thanks to chris chris hamm, chris other chris, Jacobson Danielle neither chris roe.

It was edited by me.

Travis Row and was sponsored by no one in particular.

Until next time.

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Who's who's talking Alexa, Alexa.

No nobody was talking Alexa.

No she wants you to have an appliance.

I thought you were trying to turn your fridge on or something like that joke's on her.

Our fridge can't talk to her.

You can but I don't want it to, fridges.

Don't need to talk to anyone.

Well I used to think they could.

They should but now I don't think it's necessary.

So.

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